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I have a coworker who has finished half a PhD in political science. I mentioned to him Trump's support of term limits.
I expressed some of my concerns about term limits. First of all, it is an admission that democracy isn't working. He said we already have a mechanism for term limits. It is called elections. But people always want term limits for that other candidate, not for their own.
I also expressed my concern with term limits guaranteeing that we had people in power who did not know what they were doing. We then discussed the problem of term limits increasing the president's power. He agreed and pointed at Mexico as an example.
I was concerned that term limits remove incentives for good behavior. He said that in Mexico, toward the end of their term, national representatives often just stop working. We complain about our politicians spending time away from their work to campaign, but they at least try to do stuff for their constituents even while campaigning. In Mexico, term-limited politicians are busy looking for another job.
At least, if we have no term limits, the politicians probably aren't going to look for another job while in office. Term limits also encourages politicians to use their elected role as a means of securing a job after their term is over, which can open them up to more lobbyist and other types of influence.
A lot of employees who know it is their last week will call in sick or steal the paperclips.
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Term limits, if they are ever implemented, should be at a reasonable number to allow an elected official to get things done. I have the same concerns as you listed, but then again, 30 years seems to be when they just become long in the tooth and not very productive, just good-ol-boys like McConnel and McCain who are more comfortable with the status-quo than they should be. Maybe 20 years as a cutoff? Maybe a path from the House to the Senate for those that do a good job? Say 12 years in the House and 20 in the Senate, and 24 max for both?
Most people that scream for term limits throw ridiculously low numbers out there like 2 terms max. I don't see that as being a good solution at all for the reasons posted in the first post. |
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If term limits came into effect there would be a line a mile long to get the job.
Just think , 1 or two terms in office and your set for life with a plush retirement package and insurance. A 30 year old man or woman would retire in 8 years making him or her 38 years old with full benefits. |
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Maybe D.C. should take a page from Cleveland.
You serve 4 years and your out for 2.
But we all know you're doing back haha.
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| c6thplayer1 wrote: | If term limits came into effect there would be a line a mile long to get the job.
Just think , 1 or two terms in office and your set for life with a plush retirement package and insurance. A 30 year old man or woman would retire in 8 years making him or her 38 years old with full benefits. |
There is not much incentive (accountability from voters) to keep them from voting in plusher and plusher incentives.
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I think a smart person could look at the + and - of the length of time and come up with a good number. I DO NOT think it should be a job for LIFE, even the Supreme court. We have senility to be concerned about.
Possibly 4 as a congressman and 3 as a senator. No retirement but health ins. and a $300 a month stipend for life.Maybe a limit of 15 years with a lame duck provision if the term goes over 15.
ANYTHING other than professional Politicians.........  
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| Cojak wrote: | I think a smart person could look at the + and - of the length of time and come up with a good number. I DO NOT think it should be a job for LIFE, even the Supreme court. We have senility to be concerned about.
Possibly 4 as a congressman and 3 as a senator. No retirement but health ins. and a $300 a month stipend for life.Maybe a limit of 15 years with a lame duck provision if the term goes over 15.
ANYTHING other than professional Politicians......... |
A Little math reveals a lot;
During my lifetime , as of now , I would have seen a turnover in the house and senate equating to 1040 politicians under a 4 year cap on their term. An interesting number.
Adding their benefits and perks to their retirement package would average around $200,000 per person per year equating to $208,000,000 or almost 1/4 billion per year in compensation give or take a little. Not to mention the cost of the new congress and house. Based on John Boehner current retirement package. This would exponentially grow larger over time. |
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| Just vote them out. |
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| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | Just vote them out. |
That is the BEST SOLUTION !!!!!! |
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