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Travis Johnson |
If Donald Trump is the nominee and you're ticked off about that to the point that you don't vote, threaten not to vote, vote for someone that can't possibly win, and as a result Hillary Clinton is the next president, consider the ramifications:
Antonin Scalia is dead and his seat is vacant.
Ruth Ginsberg is 82 years old.
Anthony Kennedy is 79.
Stephen Breyer is 77.
Clarence Thomas is 67.
We just got Justices Kagan and Sotomayer...and gay marriage.
I don't think that a lot of additional commentary is needed after that. We know exactly what Hillary Clinton will do. She will finish the job. And, the SCOTUS will be radically changed for decades. The generational outflow of a decision to be a non-participant in an election or to participate in an ineffective manner is serious and the results are 100% predictable. |
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bonnie knox |
| Do you have any idea what kind of judge Trump would appoint? |
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| Re: Hillary Clinton & The Supreme Court |
UncleJD |
| Travis Johnson wrote: | If Donald Trump is the nominee and you're ticked off about that to the point that you don't vote, threaten not to vote, vote for someone that can't possibly win, and as a result Hillary Clinton is the next president, consider the ramifications:
Antonin Scalia is dead and his seat is vacant.
Ruth Ginsberg is 82 years old.
Anthony Kennedy is 79.
Stephen Breyer is 77.
Clarence Thomas is 67.
We just got Justices Kagan and Sotomayer...and gay marriage.
I don't think that a lot of additional commentary is needed after that. We know exactly what Hillary Clinton will do. She will finish the job. And, the SCOTUS will be radically changed for decades. The generational outflow of a decision to be a non-participant in an election or to participate in an ineffective manner is serious and the results are 100% predictable. |
I understand your point, but imagine if we the Republican voters were wise enough to elect someone who could actually defeat Clinton.
It would be a miracle to get as many to the polls for Trump as voted for Romney and that was not enough, and the evidence was presented early on that over 40% of Republican voters said they would refuse to ever vote for Trump, yet the sophisticated voters they are simply ignored all reason and voted based on their rage and unfounded credence in demagoguery.
Even if most of us bite the bullet and vote for him, as usual its the middle that has to make up the difference and I don't think that anyone really knows how that's going to play.
As for SCOTUS, its a hope based on a promise of a man who has never shown an ounce of conservatism until politically beneficial. He will appoint his sister somewhere, if not the SC, he will make deals like he promised, and we don't really know where he stands on gay marriage, etc...
Sorry, as scary as your post is, it doesn't convince me that Trump is the one to mitigate it. I may yet due my duty and vote against my own conscience for him, but I will not blame others for not doing it. Their choice was handed to them by the minority of the party (even the latest polls show he's around 40%)
I've said all along, if you don't want me to "waste my vote" in November, don't waste it for all of us in March.
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| bonnie knox wrote: | | Do you have any idea what kind of judge Trump would appoint? |
Yes. He will appoint a Scalia type.
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DrDuck |
| bonnie knox wrote: | | Do you have any idea what kind of judge Trump would appoint? |
I know your question was not directed to me, but I will give my answer anyhow.
No, I cannot be certain what kind of judges Trump would appoint and neither can anyone else. That troubling uncertainty as to what he would do about any issue is what bothers me most about him. But I am very convinced that I know what kind of judges Hillary would nominate, and that bothers me a great deal more.
At the very least Trump would (if it matters to him at all) be under pressure from every side (populace and congress) to go with Constitutional minded judges. Also, if they have the intestinal fortitude to enforce it, congress still has the power to reject nominees from either. But I see that as only a glimmer of hope in the worst case scenario.
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bonnie knox |
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | bonnie knox wrote: | | Do you have any idea what kind of judge Trump would appoint? |
Yes. He will appoint a Scalia type. |
Or a John Roberts (who ruled it constitutional to force people to buy health insurance) or a David Souter or who knows? Besides, one could have appointed a Bork, but if he is not confirmed... |
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c6thplayer1 |
| DrDuck wrote: | | bonnie knox wrote: | | Do you have any idea what kind of judge Trump would appoint? |
I know your question was not directed to me, but I will give my answer anyhow.
No, I cannot be certain what kind of judges Trump would appoint and neither can anyone else. That troubling uncertainty as to what he would do about any issue is what bothers me most about him. But I am very convinced that I know what kind of judges Hillary would nominate, and that bothers me a great deal more.
At the very least Trump would (if it matters to him at all) be under pressure from every side (populace and congress) to go with Constitutional minded judges. Also, if they have the intestinal fortitude to enforce it, congress still has the power to reject nominees from either. But I see that as only a glimmer of hope in the worst case scenario. |
Sure we can , It will be someone from his failing casino mob. |
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UncleJD |
| I think we can be sure what kind Ted Cruz would appoint, he has a little bit of experience with the Supreme Court (like more than anyone outside of a seated justice) |
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Resident Skeptic |
| bonnie knox wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | | bonnie knox wrote: | | Do you have any idea what kind of judge Trump would appoint? |
Yes. He will appoint a Scalia type. |
Or a John Roberts (who ruled it constitutional to force people to buy health insurance) or a David Souter or who knows? Besides, one could have appointed a Bork, but if he is not confirmed... |
One of Trump's persistent attacks on Cruz is that he appointed a phony like Roberts. Thus I do not think he would make the same mistake.
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| UncleJD wrote: | | I think we can be sure what kind Ted Cruz would appoint, he has a little bit of experience with the Supreme Court (like more than anyone outside of a seated justice) |
We already know what kind he would appoint...........John Roberts.
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| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | DrDuck wrote: | | bonnie knox wrote: | | Do you have any idea what kind of judge Trump would appoint? |
I know your question was not directed to me, but I will give my answer anyhow.
No, I cannot be certain what kind of judges Trump would appoint and neither can anyone else. That troubling uncertainty as to what he would do about any issue is what bothers me most about him. But I am very convinced that I know what kind of judges Hillary would nominate, and that bothers me a great deal more.
At the very least Trump would (if it matters to him at all) be under pressure from every side (populace and congress) to go with Constitutional minded judges. Also, if they have the intestinal fortitude to enforce it, congress still has the power to reject nominees from either. But I see that as only a glimmer of hope in the worst case scenario. |
Sure we can , It will be someone from his failing casino mob. |
A comment with absolutely no substantive values.
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bonnie knox |
| Quote: | | A comment with absolutely no substantive values. |
Reminds me of a particular candidate. |
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UncleJD |
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | I think we can be sure what kind Ted Cruz would appoint, he has a little bit of experience with the Supreme Court (like more than anyone outside of a seated justice) |
We already know what kind he would appoint...........John Roberts. |
That's a Trump lie and one reason I will never vote for him, thanks for reminding me.
BTW, I believe Trump will be the first Republican in decades to lose Texas. He may turn it Blue, which I believe is his whole purpose of running anyway. |
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bonnie knox |
I think lots of people are feeling blue about politics right about now.
(Just thought I'd throw in a substantive comment.) |
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diakoneo |
Yeah, that is wacky!
So, he would appoint his liberal relative and what would the senate do?
Would they stop him?
Who knows? He might get so mad and sulky if they did not affirm his appointment...can you imagine? |
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DrDuck |
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | DrDuck wrote: | | bonnie knox wrote: | | Do you have any idea what kind of judge Trump would appoint? |
I know your question was not directed to me, but I will give my answer anyhow.
No, I cannot be certain what kind of judges Trump would appoint and neither can anyone else. That troubling uncertainty as to what he would do about any issue is what bothers me most about him. But I am very convinced that I know what kind of judges Hillary would nominate, and that bothers me a great deal more.
At the very least Trump would (if it matters to him at all) be under pressure from every side (populace and congress) to go with Constitutional minded judges. Also, if they have the intestinal fortitude to enforce it, congress still has the power to reject nominees from either. But I see that as only a glimmer of hope in the worst case scenario. |
Sure we can , It will be someone from his failing casino mob. |
No, you cannot! You cannot count on that; but if he did they (having a better handle on the real world than the Dem libs) would be likely to perform more beneficially for the country than anything Hillary or Bernie would appoint. |
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Patrick Harris |
Seems the "right thing" to do is to just suck it up and vote for Trump so that we can save our nation even if you can't stand him.
Apparently voting your conscious in this election would be a wasted vote if not for the GOP nominee according to many.
Unfortunately I don't feel the same way. I'm in the "never Trump" crowd, let the consequences fall where they may. |
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DrDuck |
| Patrick Harris wrote: | Seems the "right thing" to do is to just suck it up and vote for Trump so that we can save our nation even if you can't stand him.
Apparently voting your conscious in this election would be a wasted vote if not for the GOP nominee according to many.
Unfortunately I don't feel the same way. I'm in the "never Trump" crowd, let the consequences fall where they may. |
OK. So here is your let the consequences fall where they may results from the past:
https://www.facebook.com/BarracudaBrigade/photos/a.208873299023.130383.208763874023/10153683297339024/?type=3&theater
Really, . . . .really? And you find that acceptable for the future of this nation. Enjoy it if you will but I think it will be more like endure it if you can as long as you can. When you are watching Hillary's Muslim hordes slaughtering your family I suppose this attitude will come rushing back to mind. |
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Patrick Harris |
| DrDuck wrote: | | Patrick Harris wrote: | Seems the "right thing" to do is to just suck it up and vote for Trump so that we can save our nation even if you can't stand him.
Apparently voting your conscious in this election would be a wasted vote if not for the GOP nominee according to many.
Unfortunately I don't feel the same way. I'm in the "never Trump" crowd, let the consequences fall where they may. |
OK. So here is your let the consequences fall where they may results from the past:
https://www.facebook.com/BarracudaBrigade/photos/a.208873299023.130383.208763874023/10153683297339024/?type=3&theater
Really, . . . .really? And you find that acceptable for the future of this nation. Enjoy it if you will but I think it will be more like endure it if you can as long as you can. When you are watching Hillary's Muslim hordes slaughtering your family I suppose this attitude will come rushing back to mind. |
I've seen that image before. It was just as stupid the first time I saw it.
Paranoid delusion. There are no Muslim hordes poised to enter the US.
A President Trump is as repugnant to me as a President Hillary. |
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