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When WORSHIP Lyrics Miss The Mark (L)

Acts-celerate Owner Posts: 6957 **8/4/17 6:17 pm**

Came across this site as I was looking for some images to use on a website. Haven't had time to research much about the sponsoring group of this video, but they seemed very Bible orientated.

In particular, I thought the Music Director and Pastor's discussion about Christian music lyrics, was very interesting. Their non-bombastic approach to the discussion, might work well if such discussions arise where you minister.

ALSO, it seems this church has a ton of creative and free resources for local churches, church staff and pastors. Take a look at what they are doing and feel free to write a review of what you found there. Blessings. https://vimeo.com/226218575 The sponsoring church is found at: www.desiringgod.org.

Doyle
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[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 **8/4/17 8:57 pm**

John Piper is Calvinist; believes in predestination; doesn't think women should preach; thinks women should put up with verbal abuse "for a season" if necessary; thinks women shouldn't have jobs that require giving directives to men; seems to have a phobia of women "pressing their authority into a man," and on and on--

--just in general, not someone I can be edified by.

Bonnie...

Friendly Face Posts: 358 **8/5/17 7:46 am**

I think the subject is about Worship Songs that miss the mark... What do you think about what John Piper said in this recording? Do you discount everything he says because he is Calvinist?

Re: Bonnie...

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 **8/5/17 8:27 am**

No, I don't discount everything he says because he is a Calvinist. I have a good Calvinist friend whose company I enjoy very much; it's just that over time I've listened to so many whacked-out things that Piper has said, that I can't bring myself to hear him out. I started listening to the above audio, got to about two and half minutes and decided I had better things to spend my time on.
(I think Piper was parsing whether saying God didn't want heaven without us was accurate. I was just thinking about John 3:16 and thinking I could probably deal with singing God didn't want heaven without us.)
However, I did bring up the thing about Calvinism just so that if ministers who are reading Acts-celerate (the vast majority of whom are Pentecostal as far as I know) would know what kind of resource this is. Of course, as much as Piper is quoted, it's possible folks here already know who he is. I do know there is one minister who posts here who thinks highly of Piper, and I think highly of the poster, so each to his own I guess.