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Methocostal |
I am in the process of converting about 70 old VCR's (home movies) to DVD with my DVD to VCR recorder. However, in a year or so, I am seriously considering acquiring a high end MAC Pro or so to work with music files, photo, etc. I have heard Mac does a great job of enhancing VCR to electronic.
Should I hang on to my VCR tapes to redo them later with the Mac or can the Mac work its magic with the DVD's I have already created?
Or is the difference minimal and not worth holding on to the old tapes. |
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| Re: MacIntosh owners? Question on converting VCR tapes to electronic |
c6thplayer1 |
| Methocostal wrote: | I am in the process of converting about 70 old VCR's (home movies) to DVD with my DVD to VCR recorder. However, in a year or so, I am seriously considering acquiring a high end MAC Pro or so to work with music files, photo, etc. I have heard Mac does a great job of enhancing VCR to electronic.
Should I hang on to my VCR tapes to redo them later with the Mac or can the Mac work its magic with the DVD's I have already created?
Or is the difference minimal and not worth holding on to the old tapes. |
A digital copy of a tapes have been enhanced about as much as they can be enhanced. Therefore trying to get a better quality from a digital recording would be very very limited regardless of the computer you use to do this.
I would hang onto the tapes and try one with the new computer. The codec will probably be a little more sensitive to variations in the analog stream. |
Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology
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| Re: MacIntosh owners? Question on converting VCR tapes to electronic |
Old Time Country Preacher |
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | The codec will probably be a little more sensitive to variations in the analog stream. |
Huh? Now you see why I can't do them pics like you, C. You gonna have to interpret what ya just said above fer the ole timer to even understand it.
Is a codec one a them newfangled Kodak cameras? |
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7/11/16 10:31 am
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| Re: MacIntosh owners? Question on converting VCR tapes to electronic |
c6thplayer1 |
| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | c6thplayer1 wrote: | | The codec will probably be a little more sensitive to variations in the analog stream. |
Huh? Now you see why I can't do them pics like you, C. You gonna have to interpret what ya just said above fer the ole timer to even understand it.
Is a codec one a them newfangled Kodak cameras? |
The codec will encode or decode information sent to it. In the VCR example , the codec will receive the analog signal from the VCR and convert it to digital.
To get the highest quality conversion , two things are in play.
1. The source of the analog signal must be as pure as possible. ie a cheap vcr would not deliver a high quality signal.
2. The Codec must have a high bandwidth to ensure the capture and storing ratios are sufficient enough to provide a quality recording.
ei if an analog source to the codec has a high bandwidth but the codec's bandwidth is lesser , then the quality of the recording will suffer. Most standard codec's meet IEEE guide lines.
Another example is ;
You have a master Deck around your pool . Any addition to this deck would be considered a Co-Deck.  |
Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology
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7/11/16 11:06 am
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | You have a master Deck around your pool . Any addition to this deck would be considered a Co-Deck. |
Well, the parsonage here in Pikeville aint got no pool or deck, but I see what ya mean.  |
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| Re: MacIntosh owners? Question on converting VCR tapes to electronic |
Methocostal |
Are you saying I will get a better copy to run through a computer versus my VCR to DVD recorder? It is a nice recorder in the $300 range. (The brand name is leaving me). But, they are in one unit. VCR on one side and DVD recorder on the other side.
What computer software do you recommend. The only "editing" I plan on doing is to cut and paste and burn. For example, I may have 20 minutes of my kids playing. For brevity, I may cut that 20 minutes to 3 minutes and combine with other snippets for a particular dvd or from another Dvd into more of a compilation. I doubt I will try to mess around with color or lighting enhancements (if that is doable in a video format). I doubt I will insert transistions, but I may try to put in different "tracks" (I'm not sure what it is called where I can click on one short movie versus another). Maybe those are called menus? Anyway, I won't be doing sophisticated editing. I don't have the time.
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Methocostal wrote: | I am in the process of converting about 70 old VCR's (home movies) to DVD with my DVD to VCR recorder. However, in a year or so, I am seriously considering acquiring a high end MAC Pro or so to work with music files, photo, etc. I have heard Mac does a great job of enhancing VCR to electronic.
Should I hang on to my VCR tapes to redo them later with the Mac or can the Mac work its magic with the DVD's I have already created?
Or is the difference minimal and not worth holding on to the old tapes. |
A digital copy of a tapes have been enhanced about as much as they can be enhanced. Therefore trying to get a better quality from a digital recording would be very very limited regardless of the computer you use to do this.
I would hang onto the tapes and try one with the new computer. The codec will probably be a little more sensitive to variations in the analog stream. |
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7/12/16 8:30 am
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| Re: MacIntosh owners? Question on converting VCR tapes to electronic |
c6thplayer1 |
| Methocostal wrote: | Are you saying I will get a better copy to run through a computer versus my VCR to DVD recorder? It is a nice recorder in the $300 range. (The brand name is leaving me). But, they are in one unit. VCR on one side and DVD recorder on the other side.
What computer software do you recommend. The only "editing" I plan on doing is to cut and paste and burn. For example, I may have 20 minutes of my kids playing. For brevity, I may cut that 20 minutes to 3 minutes and combine with other snippets for a particular dvd or from another Dvd into more of a compilation. I doubt I will try to mess around with color or lighting enhancements (if that is doable in a video format). I doubt I will insert transistions, but I may try to put in different "tracks" (I'm not sure what it is called where I can click on one short movie versus another). Maybe those are called menus? Anyway, I won't be doing sophisticated editing. I don't have the time.
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Methocostal wrote: | I am in the process of converting about 70 old VCR's (home movies) to DVD with my DVD to VCR recorder. However, in a year or so, I am seriously considering acquiring a high end MAC Pro or so to work with music files, photo, etc. I have heard Mac does a great job of enhancing VCR to electronic.
Should I hang on to my VCR tapes to redo them later with the Mac or can the Mac work its magic with the DVD's I have already created?
Or is the difference minimal and not worth holding on to the old tapes. |
A digital copy of a tapes have been enhanced about as much as they can be enhanced. Therefore trying to get a better quality from a digital recording would be very very limited regardless of the computer you use to do this.
I would hang onto the tapes and try one with the new computer. The codec will probably be a little more sensitive to variations in the analog stream. |
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| Quote: | | I will get a better copy to run through a computer versus my VCR to DVD recorder? |
I have no idea what your asking here. You are going to have to re-phrase your question. |
Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology
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7/12/16 9:34 am
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| Re: MacIntosh owners? Question on converting VCR tapes to electronic |
Methocostal |
Let me try it this way. Assume you have two choices, which would you do for the best result.
1. Make a digital copy from the VHS to your computer with a software program.
2. You have a VHS and DVD recorder that are in one unit, so you copy the VHS directly to a DVD recorder.
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Methocostal wrote: | Are you saying I will get a better copy to run through a computer versus my VCR to DVD recorder? It is a nice recorder in the $300 range. (The brand name is leaving me). But, they are in one unit. VCR on one side and DVD recorder on the other side.
What computer software do you recommend. The only "editing" I plan on doing is to cut and paste and burn. For example, I may have 20 minutes of my kids playing. For brevity, I may cut that 20 minutes to 3 minutes and combine with other snippets for a particular dvd or from another Dvd into more of a compilation. I doubt I will try to mess around with color or lighting enhancements (if that is doable in a video format). I doubt I will insert transistions, but I may try to put in different "tracks" (I'm not sure what it is called where I can click on one short movie versus another). Maybe those are called menus? Anyway, I won't be doing sophisticated editing. I don't have the time.
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Methocostal wrote: | I am in the process of converting about 70 old VCR's (home movies) to DVD with my DVD to VCR recorder. However, in a year or so, I am seriously considering acquiring a high end MAC Pro or so to work with music files, photo, etc. I have heard Mac does a great job of enhancing VCR to electronic.
Should I hang on to my VCR tapes to redo them later with the Mac or can the Mac work its magic with the DVD's I have already created?
Or is the difference minimal and not worth holding on to the old tapes. |
A digital copy of a tapes have been enhanced about as much as they can be enhanced. Therefore trying to get a better quality from a digital recording would be very very limited regardless of the computer you use to do this.
I would hang onto the tapes and try one with the new computer. The codec will probably be a little more sensitive to variations in the analog stream. |
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| Quote: | | I will get a better copy to run through a computer versus my VCR to DVD recorder? |
I have no idea what your asking here. You are going to have to re-phrase your question. |
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7/12/16 12:38 pm
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| Re: MacIntosh owners? Question on converting VCR tapes to electronic |
c6thplayer1 |
| Methocostal wrote: | Let me try it this way. Assume you have two choices, which would you do for the best result.
1. Make a digital copy from the VHS to your computer with a software program.
2. You have a VHS and DVD recorder that are in one unit, so you copy the VHS directly to a DVD recorder.
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Methocostal wrote: | Are you saying I will get a better copy to run through a computer versus my VCR to DVD recorder? It is a nice recorder in the $300 range. (The brand name is leaving me). But, they are in one unit. VCR on one side and DVD recorder on the other side.
What computer software do you recommend. The only "editing" I plan on doing is to cut and paste and burn. For example, I may have 20 minutes of my kids playing. For brevity, I may cut that 20 minutes to 3 minutes and combine with other snippets for a particular dvd or from another Dvd into more of a compilation. I doubt I will try to mess around with color or lighting enhancements (if that is doable in a video format). I doubt I will insert transistions, but I may try to put in different "tracks" (I'm not sure what it is called where I can click on one short movie versus another). Maybe those are called menus? Anyway, I won't be doing sophisticated editing. I don't have the time.
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Methocostal wrote: | I am in the process of converting about 70 old VCR's (home movies) to DVD with my DVD to VCR recorder. However, in a year or so, I am seriously considering acquiring a high end MAC Pro or so to work with music files, photo, etc. I have heard Mac does a great job of enhancing VCR to electronic.
Should I hang on to my VCR tapes to redo them later with the Mac or can the Mac work its magic with the DVD's I have already created?
Or is the difference minimal and not worth holding on to the old tapes. |
A digital copy of a tapes have been enhanced about as much as they can be enhanced. Therefore trying to get a better quality from a digital recording would be very very limited regardless of the computer you use to do this.
I would hang onto the tapes and try one with the new computer. The codec will probably be a little more sensitive to variations in the analog stream. |
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| Quote: | | I will get a better copy to run through a computer versus my VCR to DVD recorder? |
I have no idea what your asking here. You are going to have to re-phrase your question. |
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Either should produce the same result. What I am saying is you cannot take digital copy #1 and make another digital copy off of Digital copy #1 and expect great improvements. |
Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology
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| Re: MacIntosh owners? Question on converting VCR tapes to electronic |
Methocostal |
Thank you!
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Methocostal wrote: | Let me try it this way. Assume you have two choices, which would you do for the best result.
1. Make a digital copy from the VHS to your computer with a software program.
2. You have a VHS and DVD recorder that are in one unit, so you copy the VHS directly to a DVD recorder.
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Methocostal wrote: | Are you saying I will get a better copy to run through a computer versus my VCR to DVD recorder? It is a nice recorder in the $300 range. (The brand name is leaving me). But, they are in one unit. VCR on one side and DVD recorder on the other side.
What computer software do you recommend. The only "editing" I plan on doing is to cut and paste and burn. For example, I may have 20 minutes of my kids playing. For brevity, I may cut that 20 minutes to 3 minutes and combine with other snippets for a particular dvd or from another Dvd into more of a compilation. I doubt I will try to mess around with color or lighting enhancements (if that is doable in a video format). I doubt I will insert transistions, but I may try to put in different "tracks" (I'm not sure what it is called where I can click on one short movie versus another). Maybe those are called menus? Anyway, I won't be doing sophisticated editing. I don't have the time.
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Methocostal wrote: | I am in the process of converting about 70 old VCR's (home movies) to DVD with my DVD to VCR recorder. However, in a year or so, I am seriously considering acquiring a high end MAC Pro or so to work with music files, photo, etc. I have heard Mac does a great job of enhancing VCR to electronic.
Should I hang on to my VCR tapes to redo them later with the Mac or can the Mac work its magic with the DVD's I have already created?
Or is the difference minimal and not worth holding on to the old tapes. |
A digital copy of a tapes have been enhanced about as much as they can be enhanced. Therefore trying to get a better quality from a digital recording would be very very limited regardless of the computer you use to do this.
I would hang onto the tapes and try one with the new computer. The codec will probably be a little more sensitive to variations in the analog stream. |
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| Quote: | | I will get a better copy to run through a computer versus my VCR to DVD recorder? |
I have no idea what your asking here. You are going to have to re-phrase your question. |
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Either should produce the same result. What I am saying is you cannot take digital copy #1 and make another digital copy off of Digital copy #1 and expect great improvements. |
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Friendly Face
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Min Music |
I would assume - unless you are making a digital to digital copy, that there will be a quality loss.
That being said, I think that it would be a better copy if you went once - from VHS to computer - if you are wanting to store or edit on your computer. If your end result is a DVD, then I would think going straight to DVD would be better.
Having said that, I've got a mac book pro, and have pulled videos from a vcr. Had to put an interface box - bought a cheep one, and it did a good job. Dropped the video over to a DVD when I finished editing out the dead spots. |
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