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Golf Cart Mafia Underboss Posts: 3638 **10/4/16 5:44 pm**

So, While We are Playing What Ifs

Acts-celerater Posts: 813 **10/4/16 6:28 pm**

You have a wedding at you church. Do you screen the special singers and only allow those living without sin?

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **10/4/16 6:55 pm**

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **10/4/16 7:07 pm**

Here's the thing for me. I personally find homosexuality and the very idea of two men having sex just about the most repulsive thing I can imagine, and I have never wavered a single bit with regard to the sinfulness of homosexual acts. For some reason I can't rightly figure out, though, I have had several friends who were gay, and have had more than one homosexual come to me as a pastor for counseling.

One thing I do know is that hatefully ostracizing them from God's house is not what I think Jesus would do at all, and another thing is that gays are quite sure all Bible believing Christians like myself absolutely despise them and want nothing to do with them. I just don't see how being hateful and hostile towards anybody because of their sin is helpful. I am not saying we must accept their unnatural abominable acts, or not preach and teach against their sin, not at all. God/Jesus is opposed to EVERY sin, and commands all men everywhere to repent. But for some reason we seem to want to especially hate gays.

Re: So, While We are Playing What Ifs

Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4682 **10/4/16 7:12 pm**

Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4682 **10/4/16 7:25 pm**

I do not, nor will I...

Member Posts: 32 **10/4/16 7:31 pm**

I won't send one of my kids to Lee... I will not recommend it to our kids who graduate at church... We give three scholarships a year, but Lee isn't on our list of schools we will pay out to. This is an inevitable result of a perpetual slide that has been playing out for the past several years. When parishioners began asking questions about whether Lee was still a Christian institution, I had to stop supporting it.
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Re: I do not, nor will I...

Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4682 **10/4/16 7:51 pm**

Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3147 **10/4/16 8:19 pm**

FWIW, Neil lived next door to me for a year, he was a nice guy (I'm sure he still is) and I didn't know he was a homosexual. I felt terrible when I heard it years later, I pray for him when I think about it. Jesus loves him.

Interesting issue ...

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1994 **10/4/16 8:20 pm**

Interesting issue, is Lee University committed to continuing in the historic role in the denomination or does its celebrate its current "success" (embodied in the leader who has transformed the institution) even when core values of the denomination are disregarded? Which is more important?

Mat

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **10/4/16 8:20 pm**

Dean, I'm curious about something you said:

"The facts are we protect them & isolate them from being bullied."

Are you saying that we should allow them to be bullied?

Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4682 **10/5/16 7:08 pm**

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **10/5/16 7:26 pm**

Thank you for clarifying. It just sounded to me as if you thought gays not being protected from being bullied would somehow be preferable.

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 7307 **10/6/16 8:48 am**

When was the line crossed that made whomever made this decision believe it would be acceptable?
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Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16646 **10/6/16 8:57 am**

And In Closing....

Acts-celerater Posts: 813 **10/6/16 9:48 am**

Here are my final thoughts:

-I think having the person in question sing was at 'least' a great lack of wisdom on someone's part (I don't know who invited and approved the guests).

But, I cannot read any intent into it.

I would caution any of us about reading intent into it.

If you are bothered, then do what Jesus said, call Dr. Conn, or the Dean of the Music department and ask 'why'?

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 7307 **10/6/16 10:08 am**

I ain't bothered.

I'm just curious.

Over the years several Church of God preachers have informed me that if the Church of God ever compromised on homosexuality they were "gone".

It's always a question of direction, not distance.

When one takes even a small step in the wrong direction the outcome is disaster. Unless there is a course correction.

What would Ray H. Hughes do? Shocked

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Senior Pastor SPWC
Congregational Church of God

www.spwc.church

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **10/6/16 11:09 am**

How does having someone with sin in their life sing at a banquet equal endorsing their sin?

The CoG has repeatedly made its stand quite clear in resolutions and in its Practical Commitments, in recent years especially, against homosexual behavior and same-sex marriage. We are not, as a denomination, on a 'slippery slope' with regard to this issue.

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 7307 **10/6/16 3:28 pm**

On property belonging to the Church of God, Cleveland, TN.

That seems to be the issue.

My point is that radical homosexuals are looking for any opportunity to press their agenda.

If a known homosexual is allowed to perform on Church of God property, why can't "other" homosexuals?

Has a legal door been opened?
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Senior Pastor SPWC
Congregational Church of God

www.spwc.church