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Some memories are so easily forgotten |
Dean Steenburgh |
WORTH REPEATING
AN IMPORTANT REMINDER:
If you're over 35, you lived through it,
so read it and recollect.
Amazing to me, how much I had forgotten!
For those under 35, read this,
verify and don't forget.
Remember when Bill was President ?
January 20, 1993 to January 20, 2001
Two term President
When Bill Clinton was president,
he allowed Hillary to assume authority
over an attempt to health care reform.
Even after threats and intimidation,
she couldn't get a vote in a Democrat controlled US Congress.
This fiasco cost the American taxpayers about $13 million
for studies, promotion, and other efforts.
Then, President Clinton gave Hillary authority
over selecting a female attorney general.
Her first two selections were Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood
- both were forced to withdraw their names from consideration.
Next, she chose Janet Reno
- husband Bill described her selection as "my worst mistake."
Some may not remember that Reno made the decision to gas
David Koresh and the Branch Davidian religious sect
in Waco, Texas resulting in dozens of deaths of women and children.
Husband Bill allowed Hillary to make recommendations
for the head of the Civil Rights Commission.
Lani Guanier was her selection.
When a little probing led to the discovery of Ms. Guanier's radical views,
her name had to be withdrawn from consideration.
Apparently a slow learner, husband Bill allowed Hillary
to make some more recommendations.
She chose former law partners Web Hubbel for the Justice Department,
Vince Foster for the White House staff, and
William Kennedy for the Treasury Department.
Her selections went well:
Hubbel went to prison, Foster (presumably) committed suicide,
and Kennedy was forced to resign.
Many younger voters will have no knowledge of "Travelgate."
Hillary wanted to award unfettered travel contracts to Clinton friend Harry Thompson
- and the White House Travel Office refused to comply.
She managed to have them reported to the FBI and fired.
This ruined their reputations, cost them their jobs,
and caused a thirty-six month investigation.
Only one employee, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime,
and that of the enormous crime of mixing personal and White House funds.
A jury acquitted him of any crime in less than two hours.
Still not convinced of her ineptness, Hillary was allowed to recommend
a close Clinton friend, Craig Livingstone,
for the position of Director of White House security.
When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access
of about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate)
and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff,
suddenly Hillary and the President denied even knowing Livingstone,
and of course, denied knowledge of drug use in the White House.
Following this debacle, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office
after more than thirty years of service to seven presidents.
Next, when women started coming forward
with allegations of sexual harassment and rape by Bill Clinton,
Hillary was put in charge of the "bimbo eruption" and scandal defense.
Some of her more notable decisions in the debacle were:
She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit.
After the Starr investigation, they settled with Ms. Jones.
She refused to release the Whitewater documents,
which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor.
After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent,
Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky,
which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs.
Hillary's devious game plan resulted in Bill losing his license
to practice law for 'lying under oath' to a grand jury
and then his subsequent impeachment by the House of Representatives.
Hillary avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice during the Starr
investigation by repeating, "I do not recall," "I have no recollection,"
and "I don't know" a total of 56 times while under oath.
After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated
$200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork that she had "stolen."
What a swell person - ready for another four or eight years
of this low-life fool?
Now we are exposed to the unsecure keeping and attempted destruction
of beyond Top Secret emails while Hillary was US Secretary of State
and the "pay to play" schemes of the Clinton Foundation.
What "shoe will fall" next?
But to her loyal fans: "What difference does it make?"
Electing Hillary Clinton president
would be like granting Satan absolution
and giving him the keys to heaven!
. _________________ "Empty nest syndrome is for the birds!"
Email me at: SteenburghDean@gmail.com
Church planters are focused on just one thing ...introducing people to Jesus!
What are you focused on? |
Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4682 10/23/16 11:28 am
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bonnie knox |
Source? |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 10/23/16 11:52 am

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Dean Steenburgh |
bonnie knox wrote: | Source? |
History bonnie ...history!
. _________________ "Empty nest syndrome is for the birds!"
Email me at: SteenburghDean@gmail.com
Church planters are focused on just one thing ...introducing people to Jesus!
What are you focused on? |
Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4682 10/23/16 11:54 am
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bonnie knox |
Dean, you didn't write that. Give the proper attribution.
Dean Steenburgh wrote: | bonnie knox wrote: | Source? |
History bonnie ...history!
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[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 10/23/16 12:19 pm

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Old Time Country Preacher |
bonnie knox wrote: | Dean, you didn't write that. Give the proper attribution.
Dean Steenburgh wrote: | bonnie knox wrote: | Source? |
History bonnie ...history!
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Oh man, Dean, son, you didn't plagiarize this stuff did ya? |
Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 10/23/16 1:01 pm
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diakoneo |
Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | bonnie knox wrote: | Dean, you didn't write that. Give the proper attribution.
Dean Steenburgh wrote: | bonnie knox wrote: | Source? |
History bonnie ...history!
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Oh man, Dean, son, you didn't plagiarize this stuff did ya? |
Good stuff whether plagiarized or not  |
Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3382 10/23/16 1:48 pm
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bonnie knox |
Some of it is kinda funny, in a way. Whoever wrote it blames Hillary's "devious game plan" for Bill's poor choices and reprehensible behavior.
Quote: | Hillary's devious game plan resulted in Bill losing his license
to practice law for 'lying under oath' to a grand jury
and then his subsequent impeachment by the House of Representatives. |
Oh, if only Hillary had let him settle with Paula Jones! Then no one would have found out about Lewinsky and poor Bill wouldn't have been tempted to lie under oath, and he wouldn't have been impeached and disbarred. Poor Bill.
So is the writer trying to indict Hillary because she wasn't able to help Bill cover his transgressions? |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 10/23/16 2:21 pm

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diakoneo |
bonnie knox wrote: | Some of it is kinda funny, in a way. Whoever wrote it blames Hillary's "devious game plan" for Bill's poor choices and reprehensible behavior.
Quote: | Hillary's devious game plan resulted in Bill losing his license
to practice law for 'lying under oath' to a grand jury
and then his subsequent impeachment by the House of Representatives. |
Oh, if only Hillary had let him settle with Paula Jones! Then no one would have found out about Lewinsky and poor Bill wouldn't have been tempted to lie under oath, and he wouldn't have been impeached and disbarred. Poor Bill.
So is the writer trying to indict Hillary because she wasn't able to help Bill cover his transgressions? |
Yep
Sad couple
And we need them one more time  |
Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3382 10/23/16 2:26 pm
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Dean Steenburgh |
bonnie knox wrote: | Dean, you didn't write that. Give the proper attribution.
Dean Steenburgh wrote: | bonnie knox wrote: | Source? |
History bonnie ...history!
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After all of the content I posted the only thing you're concerned with is the source? I would never post something without conditional support if I were not the author so fear not.
Regardless of who wrote it, maybe it was part mine & part another, does knowledge of the source matter if it's backed up by historical record?
. _________________ "Empty nest syndrome is for the birds!"
Email me at: SteenburghDean@gmail.com
Church planters are focused on just one thing ...introducing people to Jesus!
What are you focused on? |
Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4682 10/23/16 4:23 pm
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Patrick Harris |
Dean Steenburgh wrote: | bonnie knox wrote: | Dean, you didn't write that. Give the proper attribution.
Dean Steenburgh wrote: | bonnie knox wrote: | Source? |
History bonnie ...history!
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After all of the content I posted the only thing you're concerned with is the source? I would never post something without conditional support if I were not the author so fear not.
Regardless of who wrote it, maybe it was part mine & part another, does knowledge of the source matter if it's backed up by historical record?
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Really. Not much of it was original.
Really sad for someone to try and justify plagiarism. |
Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1323 10/23/16 5:30 pm
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Dean Steenburgh |
Patrick Harris wrote: | Dean Steenburgh wrote: | bonnie knox wrote: | Dean, you didn't write that. Give the proper attribution.
Dean Steenburgh wrote: | bonnie knox wrote: | Source? |
History bonnie ...history!
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After all of the content I posted the only thing you're concerned with is the source? I would never post something without conditional support if I were not the author so fear not.
Regardless of who wrote it, maybe it was part mine & part another, does knowledge of the source matter if it's backed up by historical record?
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Really. Not much of it was original.
Really sad for someone to try and justify plagiarism. |
Are you accusing me of this Patrick? Or are you just on the bandwagon here?
. _________________ "Empty nest syndrome is for the birds!"
Email me at: SteenburghDean@gmail.com
Church planters are focused on just one thing ...introducing people to Jesus!
What are you focused on? |
Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4682 10/23/16 5:32 pm
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Patrick Harris |
Dean Steenburgh wrote: | Patrick Harris wrote: | Dean Steenburgh wrote: | bonnie knox wrote: | Dean, you didn't write that. Give the proper attribution.
Dean Steenburgh wrote: | bonnie knox wrote: | Source? |
History bonnie ...history!
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After all of the content I posted the only thing you're concerned with is the source? I would never post something without conditional support if I were not the author so fear not.
Regardless of who wrote it, maybe it was part mine & part another, does knowledge of the source matter if it's backed up by historical record?
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Really. Not much of it was original.
Really sad for someone to try and justify plagiarism. |
Are you accusing me of this Patrick? Or are you just on the bandwagon here?
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Nope. I'm calling you out. I found most of what's written verbatim on other sites. |
Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1323 10/23/16 5:33 pm
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Dean Steenburgh |
For some odd reason Patrick you've sorta had this angst about making sure you sound off against me for the last few times I've posted so where is this coming from?
And you took the time to find this on other sites?
I did no such thing as going to a web location to copy this & repost it.
A friend sent it to me & asked if I would share it via social web.
I had zero idea that you & bonnie would read my posts & look for plagiarism.
If it's not my friends original material that is their issue, I wasn't going to 'search the web' to confirm the content. I lived through the stuff that I posted & it all happened & we know the historical account.
. _________________ "Empty nest syndrome is for the birds!"
Email me at: SteenburghDean@gmail.com
Church planters are focused on just one thing ...introducing people to Jesus!
What are you focused on? |
Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4682 10/23/16 5:43 pm
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bonnie knox |
Dean, the OP makes a lot of insinuations that Bill Clinton was letting Hillary make major decisions. Sure, I remember Janet Reno and Waco. No, I don't remember Hillary being the one to appoint Reno, and I don't know if that can be substantiated or not.
There was also the part in which the author of the stuff in the OP seemed to be trying to indict Hillary for not doing a good job covering up Bill's transgressions, which makes the piece seem more like ax grinding than thoughtful dialogue.
If the source is not reliable, which I suspect it is not, I will just dismiss it altogether. That's why I asked in the first place.
Travelgate and Whitewater are worth mentioning, but when that is thrown in with a piece that says electing Hillary is like giving Satan absolution, that seems unnecessarily melodramatic.
I just wanted to make sure you wouldn't be taking it personally when I told you what a sorry piece of commentary that was, lol. |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 10/23/16 5:53 pm

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I recall reading a debunking of the furniture thing. Snopes may be biased, but it may be worth a read before posting something like this. _________________ Link |
Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11849 10/23/16 6:20 pm
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diakoneo |
bonnie knox wrote: | Dean, the OP makes a lot of insinuations that Bill Clinton was letting Hillary make major decisions. Sure, I remember Janet Reno and Waco. No, I don't remember Hillary being the one to appoint Reno, and I don't know if that can be substantiated or not.
There was also the part in which the author of the stuff in the OP seemed to be trying to indict Hillary for not doing a good job covering up Bill's transgressions, which makes the piece seem more like ax grinding than thoughtful dialogue.
If the source is not reliable, which I suspect it is not, I will just dismiss it altogether. That's why I asked in the first place.
Travelgate and Whitewater are worth mentioning, but when that is thrown in with a piece that says electing Hillary is like giving Satan absolution, that seems unnecessarily melodramatic.
I just wanted to make sure you wouldn't be taking it personally when I told you what a sorry piece of commentary that was, lol. |
Yeah, but still...
I guess I have an ax to grind with Hillary too! Maybe why I liked it??
Sorry commentary?? I am no english critic, my college profs. will vouch for that  |
Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3382 10/23/16 9:21 pm
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Nature Boy Florida |
bonnie knox wrote: | Dean, the OP makes a lot of insinuations that Bill Clinton was letting Hillary make major decisions. Sure, I remember Janet Reno and Waco. No, I don't remember Hillary being the one to appoint Reno, and I don't know if that can be substantiated or not.
There was also the part in which the author of the stuff in the OP seemed to be trying to indict Hillary for not doing a good job covering up Bill's transgressions, which makes the piece seem more like ax grinding than thoughtful dialogue.
If the source is not reliable, which I suspect it is not, I will just dismiss it altogether. That's why I asked in the first place.
Travelgate and Whitewater are worth mentioning, but when that is thrown in with a piece that says electing Hillary is like giving Satan absolution, that seems unnecessarily melodramatic.
I just wanted to make sure you wouldn't be taking it personally when I told you what a sorry piece of commentary that was, lol. |
The health care debacle is certainly true. Hillary was definitely in charge of that.
Hillary was also in charge of Bimbo eruptions - and famously said on 60 minutes they weren't true - all part of a "vast right wing conspiracy". _________________ Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because its the best thing going today! |
Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16646 10/24/16 12:03 pm

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bonnie knox |
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The health care debacle is certainly true. Hillary was definitely in charge of that. |
Unless Trump has a solid plan for dismantling Obamacare, that's a moot point right now. |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 10/24/16 12:09 pm

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Eddie Robbins |
I think it's funny to go way back in history to point out things but when it's 11 years ago for Trump, it's in the past and should be forgiven.  |
Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16509 10/24/16 12:12 pm
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bonnie knox |
Quote: | Hillary was also in charge of Bimbo eruptions - and famously said on 60 minutes they weren't true - all part of a "vast right wing conspiracy". |
I do remember her using that phrase. I thought it was specifically in regards to the Lewinsky scandal, but I could be mistaken.
She really doesn't have a good record in the way she treated women, but she is running against Trump, so that is not an issue that will work very well against her. |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 10/24/16 12:14 pm

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