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Embryo frozen for 25 years...

Friendly Face Posts: 401 **12/20/17 12:47 pm**

Curious what you all think about the spiritual implications of this.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/healthtrending/frozen-embryo-conceived-the-year-after-her-mother-was-born/ar-BBH2jRx?li=AA5LBhu&ocid=ientp
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Re: Embryo frozen for 25 years...

Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3147 **12/20/17 4:35 pm**

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 **12/20/17 5:43 pm**

I bet the donor was a Mormon. Shocked

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **12/20/17 5:46 pm**

I heard Kareem Abdul Jabbar was going to be cloned and have the embryos frozen. They would be Iced Kareem clones.

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 **12/20/17 5:50 pm**

Frozen

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1449 **12/20/17 8:29 pm**

Guess timing must not be important to God. Rolling Eyes

Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11849 **12/20/17 8:51 pm**

Ethically, this is a troublesome issue. I consider it commendable to give the baby a place to grow. But if this created a market for freezing embryos, that might be a bad thing. Doctors who discard them might freeze them if there is a market for them.
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Friendly Face Posts: 401 **12/21/17 12:08 pm**

Thanks for your responses... I think.

My questions on this are along the lines of... if God creates all life, how does this fit that? What does the church or the bible say about this? Is it ok to keep what most in our tradition view as human beings with rights on ice for 25 years? If not donated for another's use, are the other embryos destroyed? Is that murder in the same way so many view abortion as murder? You joked about the soul but when does the soul enter the new life? Conception? When the child is viable with or without the mother? Birth? So many questions...
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Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11849 **12/21/17 12:35 pm**

Friendly Face Posts: 401 **12/21/17 12:50 pm**

Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3147 **12/21/17 1:58 pm**

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[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 13654 **12/21/17 3:48 pm**

I think JD has this one surrounded. Life begins at conception, which occurred prior to the embryo being frozen. There are ethical implications of this as Link pointed out, but I don't see that there are any spiritual implications.

And if God is sovereign over life, He is sovereign over a life that was held in state for 25 years and sovereign over those who chose to do that

Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11849 **12/22/17 4:26 am**

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **12/22/17 9:37 am**

The primary ethical problem with IVF has always been what to do with all the extra embryos (persons) created in the process. For the Roman Catholic Church, a big issue is the separation of conception from natural copulation, with the baby being conceived in a test tube rather than the place where God designed babies to be conceivedâ€”the womb.

Considering the fact that there are estimated to be hundreds of thousands of frozen embryos sitting in storage, perhaps to be discarded or donated for medical research, one would think that this particular case, in which an embryo which had been in frozen storage for so long has now fulfilled its divine design, resulting in the birth of a child, would be cause for rejoicing as well as a powerful witness to the fact that life begins at conception.