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If you're on Twitter, @ThomasWictor has good information and thoughts on this issue.

"""In 1977, Roy Moore graduated from the University of Alabama School of Law. The school holds its ceremony in May. After graduating, Moore returned to Gadsden and opened up a private practice. Everything I've read says that Moore's practice was small.

In 1977, Moore was appointed the first full-time Assistant District Attorney of Etowah County.

The accuser says that Moore was a celebrity in Gadsden. In her press conference, she called him the District Attorney and said that EVERYBODY knew him.

I've spent all of today on http://newspapers.com , and I can find NOTHING about Roy Moore as ADA. There is not a single article about Moore that was published in 1977. He was unknown to journalism.

The accuser says that SHE--as a 16-year-old--knew who Roy Moore was. She was flattered when he asked to sign her yearbook on December 22, 1977.

How long did it take Roy Moore to become the Most Famous Man in Gadsden? Less than three months. In three months, Roy Moore DITCHED a lifetime of discipline and values, and went BANANAS! "Yahoo! I'm famous! Look out, girls, because here comes ROY!"

Moore's father died while Moore attended West Point. Moore's siblings say that Roy became the father. They credit him with keeping them out of trouble. Moore went to Vietnam, where he was known as "Captain America" for his discipline. He had to sleep on sandbags because soldiers had threatened to roll a hand grenade under his bunk. After Vietnam, Moore went to law school. He PICKED COTTON to make ends meets. Then he started a law practice.

But!

As soon as he was appointed Assistant District Attorney, IT WAS PARTY TIME! He was getting paid HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS! So NOW was the time to THROW AWAY EVERYTHING HE STOOD FOR, and in less than THREE MONTHS, he was The Most Famous Man in Gadsden.

Just one question: ARE WE ALL INSANE NOW?

This is an un-story. One of the most blatantly phony political hit jobs I've ever seen. Showing reporters anime cartoons of the victim as she looked when she was an ethereal teenager fighting off The Most Famous Man in Gadsden?

People want me to talk about the accuser, but that's not necessary. The ACCUSATIONS are fake. That's all that matters.

I DO want to thank Gloria Allred for goading me into researching Roy Moore. All I knew about him was the Ten Commandments issue. Now I admire and support the judge, though I disagree with many or most of his social positions.

I want the judge elected for two reasons: One, he endured one of the most vicious smear jobs in the history of American politics. This stuff dates back to the pre-Civil War era. I NEVER thought I'd see things like this in MY era.

The second reason I want the judge elected is that he'll blow up Washington. It NEEDS blowing up, as this smear job shows."""
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Well, I'm glad good ole ThomasWictor is now acknowledging that Moore was a deputy district attorney in '77. In the other post you made of his, he said this:
"The accuser says she knew Moore well--but even today she calls him the District Attorney.

In reality, he was a prosecutor. "

Bless his heart.
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Also, he may be overlooking the fact that Moore himself said he dated "a lot of young ladies" when he got back from Vietnam. I suspect Moore has actually forgotten some of the women he did date. [Insert Acts Pun Here]
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bonnie knox wrote:
Also, he may be overlooking the fact that Moore himself said he dated "a lot of young ladies" when he got back from Vietnam. I suspect Moore has actually forgotten some of the women he did date.


Why won't Gloria ALL-RED allow independent investigators to examine the yearbook?
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If I were someone's lawyer, I wouldn't either (though as I stated in another thread, choosing Allred--and please, just because you don't like her, don't make fun of her name--does NOT lend credence to a client's claim of this being apolitical).
I thought even before someone else brought it up, that the name of the restaurant was probably added by someone else. I don't know if the signature was added by someone else. I do notice that Moore's written statement says it has been "tampered with." That is different than standing by his claim that he never signed her yearbook at all.
But if I were a lawyer, I would have no way of knowing what turning the yearbook over would reveal, so it would be in the best interest of my client to NOT do it. It would make no difference whether I thought it was authentic or not. Besides that, (just to play the devil's advocate), suppose the assault happened as Nelson described, suppose Moore had indeed signed her yearbook with the inscription, though not the printing of the initials "D.A.," date, and restaurant. If I were a lawyer and had a good case based on everything else, why would I risk sabotaging my case if it turned out those were details added to the yearbook by someone else. And I can easily see someone added a notation of the place after someone signed her yearbook.

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bonnie knox wrote:
Also, he may be overlooking the fact that Moore himself said he dated "a lot of young ladies" when he got back from Vietnam. I suspect Moore has actually forgotten some of the women he did date.


Why won't Gloria ALL-RED allow independent investigators to examine the yearbook?
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bonnie knox wrote:
If I were someone's lawyer, I wouldn't either (though as I stated in another thread, choosing Allred--and please, just because you don't like her, don't make fun of her name--does NOT lend credence to a client's claim of this being apolitical).
I thought even before someone else brought it up, that the name of the restaurant was probably added by someone else. I don't know if the signature was added by someone else. I do notice that Moore's written statement says it has been "tampered with." That is different than standing by his claim that he never signed her yearbook at all.
But if I were a lawyer, I would have no way of knowing what turning the yearbook over would reveal, so it would be in the best interest of my client to NOT do it. It would make no difference whether I thought it was authentic or not. Besides that, (just to play the devil's advocate), suppose the assault happened as Nelson described, suppose Moore had indeed signed her yearbook with the inscription, though not the printing of the initials "D.A.," date, and restaurant. If I were a lawyer and had a good case based on everything else, why would I risk sabotaging my case if it turned out those were details added to the yearbook by someone else. And I can easily see someone added a notation of the place after someone signed her yearbook.

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bonnie knox wrote:
Also, he may be overlooking the fact that Moore himself said he dated "a lot of young ladies" when he got back from Vietnam. I suspect Moore has actually forgotten some of the women he did date.


Why won't Gloria ALL-RED allow independent investigators to examine the yearbook?


A judge could order it to be turned over. An ink test can reveal how old the ink is from the signature. If it tests 4 weeks old, she's a liar. Moore is suing her, so she may indeed be ordered to turn it over.
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An ink test can reveal how old the ink is from the signature.


Is this true? I really don't know about testing the ages of ink--I've heard conflicting things about it.
In any case, a good lawyer will make sure her client doesn't incriminate herself--if she suspects her client added part of the inscription, she will make the claim that her client never claimed that everything written on the page was written by Moore, only that he "signed her yearbook."
Moore will have a hard time with a defamation case because he is a public figure.
And to the OP, ThomasWictor should take a few examples of people who are KNOWN to have committed sexual harassment and see what their backgrounds look like.
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