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Western NC Campmeeting

Acts-celerater Posts: 875 **6/24/22 8:35 am**

I watched some of the WNC Campmeeting online and when they panned the audience, I was shocked at how few people were there. Does anybody know how the campmeeting was received?

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1865 **6/24/22 12:08 pm**

IMHO, camp meeting has become a pastor’s convention for many years now. The laity of the COG today just don’t feel a deep sense of connection like us older ministers did. Before the advent of social media, we looked forward to seeing our brothers and sisters that we would only see once or twice a year.

Taking into account post-Covid church attendance as a whole, gas prices, and the convenience of live-streaming, we should not be surprised by lower attendance numbers. If I’m being honest, there have been times that I only attended because I had agreed to serve in some capacity.

I do believe that most AB’s have been intentional about making the camp meeting experience a blessing for all who attend. There will always be those that try to grandstand and abuse their time on the platform.

Re: Western NC Campmeeting

Acts-celerater Posts: 787 **6/24/22 3:14 pm**

01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24285 **6/24/22 8:53 pm**

I think Da Sheik hit it on the head about this time in our lives.

However Florida still has it's Camp Ground, and also the Black Florida COG still has an active Camp ground.

WNC leaders I think, were glad the Air Port bought the Camp Ground. Instead of another camp ground they bought/built some 'beautiful offices' in an exclusive area of Charlotte. Now we are UP TOWN!

Folks I know, preachers and members would have preferred another camp ground that they owned.
JMHO.....

I am the old school, I like CAmp Grounds.....

I have not talked to anyone who attended, but from the looks of the crowds, the Central church itself would have had that many attendees.
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Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5923 **6/25/22 11:16 pm**

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Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5923 **7/1/22 8:00 pm**

I don't know what was bought or sold, but WNC wound up at the former Paw Creek COG property for a season. I think the Whittier property was purchased but it's so far from Charlotte, it did not take the place of the state office. The Whittier campmeeting is held there, but I don't think it's the official state campmeeting but probably the only campground they own. I have seen where state meetings have taken place in Lincolnton and now in Charlotte.

The former campgrounds on Wilkinson Blvd are now overgrown and in ruins. It's very sad.

I don't know what happened the $ that was made on the airport deal with the city, but it was a very sad day for WNC.
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Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 7307 **7/4/22 12:08 pm**

What is the current status of the former Paw Creek property?
Who owns it and what is it being used for?
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01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24285 **7/4/22 12:40 pm**

The Lee College Bible School extension was at Paw Creek until it closed the doors (i Think). Presently (Or the last I heard) the Renovatus COG was active and doing well there. Renovatus (?) is the church that Jonathan Martin successfully planted in Charlotte.
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Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5923 **7/4/22 10:02 pm**

01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24285 **7/6/22 5:51 pm**

Quote Carolyn: It appears Renovatus is no longer associated with the COG.

That is a sad state of affairs. Paw Creek Leadership decisions when Joe was wanting to take it with him back then were driven by COG strong stand on owning. They were backed heavily by the Catholic and Methodist churches who wanted the COG to stay the course because of their own rules about ownership. At least that is what the 3rd in WNC leadership told me at the time.

He said at the time we should have sold it to Joe for a $1.

That statement seems to have been true. WE (COG) have made some wrong decisions, some honest and some pretty mean.

WAter under the bridge, I hope we have learned something over the years. I have no doubt Overseers are driven by their hearts but still MUST look at finances for decisions also, it sure looks bad at times when past and present contradict...... ;-(

Crying or Very sad

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Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 7307 **7/11/22 11:06 am**

What a crying shame!

I hope the bureaucrats in Cleveland are pleased.

After all of the hard work Joe, his family and the Congregation put into that property.

Now Cleveland has sold it.

My guess, for thirty pieces of silver.
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Friendly Face Posts: 387 **7/12/22 12:35 am**

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5923 **7/12/22 5:52 am**

It appears it is still a COG property but the state doesn't own it.

That was a sad chapter in our history, where nobody wins and everybody loses. It is not the only church it's happened to, and it is always a sad story that leaves a bitter taste in everyone's mouths.

There's a small local church here that the same thing happened to. Pastor went independent and took the church with him, and they lost everything they had poured into it for years. It is never pretty. God eventually led the next pastor to go back under a covering and back into the COG and there was some redemption on both sides, but it was a very painful chapter for everyone.

They tried to do two different things that I know of (perhaps more) with the property. Might have been better if they had washed their hands of it. It's ancient history now. Perhaps we should learn from it and move on.
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Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 7307 **7/12/22 1:40 pm**

Bro Chambers position was simple.

This is not the Church of God I joined years ago.

Many could express a similar sentiment.

Great people.

Bad government.
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Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1865 **7/12/22 10:05 pm**

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 7307 **7/13/22 5:10 pm**

Well, I was there.

The United Methodist judge made the difference.
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