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A quote from Reinhard Bonnke's official Facebook page on the presence of God.
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The Spirit of God does not just turn up like the congregation on Sundays. He does not wait until we have prepared for His visit with suitable songs. We do not pray for God to be there, because He is there – always. He is fully there! He would never make His redeeming work depend on our emotional state, which goes up and down like an elevator in the Empire State building, one moment on the ground floor and the next in the clouds. God’s sun never sets. The Spirit of God does not withdraw or retract, evaporate, diminish, or leak away. He abides. God has not covenanted to be with us sometimes, but at all times. Even today. God bless you. REINHARD BONNKE |
He seems to have a different position on the issue from Benny Hinn and a lot of other preachers.
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| Link wrote: | | He seems to have a different position on the issue from Benny Hinn. |
I pray all my positions are different from Benny Hinn. |
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| Link wrote: | A quote from Reinhard Bonnke's official Facebook page on the presence of God.
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The Spirit of God does not just turn up like the congregation on Sundays. He does not wait until we have prepared for His visit with suitable songs. We do not pray for God to be there, because He is there – always. He is fully there! He would never make His redeeming work depend on our emotional state, which goes up and down like an elevator in the Empire State building, one moment on the ground floor and the next in the clouds. God’s sun never sets. The Spirit of God does not withdraw or retract, evaporate, diminish, or leak away. He abides. God has not covenanted to be with us sometimes, but at all times. Even today. God bless you. REINHARD BONNKE |
He seems to have a different position on the issue from Benny Hinn and a lot of other preachers. |
We often sing songs welcoming the Holy Spirit or asking Him to come. Of course, we are talking about an awareness of His presence or as is often said we are speaking of His manifest presence. But I think that explanation at least once in a while would be helpful for the new Christians or even the unsaved, .
Bonnke makes a great point that the presence and power of the Holy Spirit doesn't depend on our emotional state. Emotions are important in our life in Christ. But they are not the final proof. Our emotions are so often swayed. |
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| Re: A quote from Reinhard Bonkke on the presence of God. |
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| Ventureforth wrote: |
We often sing songs welcoming the Holy Spirit or asking Him to come. |
I got into a discussion a few weeks ago with someone who was against Pentecostals and against praying to the Holy Spirit. He thought Pentecostals asked the Holy Spirit to baptize them, or something along those lines, and prayed to the Spirit to do that.
I agreed with him that the Bible doesn't teach us to pray to the Holy Spirit. It teaches prayer to the Father in Jesus' name. Jesus baptizes with the Spirit. The Father gives the Holy Ghost to them Who ask Him.
'Come, Holy Spirit' was something they said in the Vineyard. I've heard Charismatic and Third Wave songs addressed to the Spirit.
This is another one of those issues that deals with how we treat the Bible. If the Bible doesn't teach something, is it forbidden.
Is it wrong to pray to the Holy Spirit? Is it inappropriate to direct prayers to Jesus rather than to the Father in His name?
I'll start another thread.
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| I don't know RB or anything about his ministry but I will say this: I have always had difficulty with believing an Omnipresent Holy Spirit just randomly "shows up" at religious gatherings. I think it has a lot to do with our awareness and ability to yield to His presence which is constant. But that's just me. |
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amusing and ironic...
that we gather in what we call God's house, or temple, then invite Him to the service.
If it is indeed His house/temple, then He is already present and it is He who plays host and invites us into His presence.
Perhaps our on preparation to enter God's house is much more important than waiting for a jump-start from the Praise & Worship team, a choir, or a cheerleader behind the pulpit.
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| But what about all these young fellers in skinny jeans an their shirt hangin out who tell us at "GOD SHOWED UP & SHOWED OUT." |
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| Da Sheik wrote: | | I don't know RB or anything about his ministry but I will say this: I have always had difficulty with believing an Omnipresent Holy Spirit just randomly "shows up" at religious gatherings. I think it has a lot to do with our awareness and ability to yield to His presence which is constant. But that's just me. |
Well said.
I know nothing of RB myself, but do agree with the statement: He would never make His redeeming work depend on our emotional state, 
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