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FARCE ALERT!!! The Church of God Listening Tour About the Title of Bishop, Women in Ministry, Etc.
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Post I agree, QW.... Aaron Scott
Quiet Wyatt wrote:
When I had people in my congregation who were blatant racists, I certainly wouldn’t have ever said, “Well, that’s their will, I shouldn’t try to change their minds on this. I should just respect their wishes and allow them to chase anyone of color off, use the N word as much as they want, use derogatory language when referring to Hispanics, etc.” No, instead I saw it as my duty to educate, inform, reprove and in some cases rebuke their arrogant racist pridefulness (which is in fact gross sin). The righteous response to moral unjustness in the church or in society is never to just passively accept the status quo as “the will of the people.” What total hogwash and dereliction of duty that would be for the Christian to just let a correctable wrong persist.

Thankfully, great men of God like Wesley, Wilberforce, Finney and Mahan didn’t just accept the will of the people when it came to the practice of slavery, even though many professing Christians adamantly defended the institution as scriptural even.



If the Church of God was doing something that was morally or scripturally wrong, then fine, bring it up every time we can.

But that is not the case here. There is no scriptural demand for women in leadership (but, to be fair, there is no scriptural statement clearly against it). And it is no more morally wrong to hold the current position than it is morally wrong to believe a man is the head of the wife.

It certainly isn't politically correct, and times and culture have made women in leadership a much easier pill to swallow--preferable, even. But if that is all that drives us, there may come a day when it is considered inappropriate not to have a "diverse" leadership model that has (I'm being facetious here) an atheist, LGBTQ representative (after all, there are probably plenty of those in our pews, even if closeted), etc. The notion of "diversity" is in flux, and has been for a long time. It used to mean something along the lines of just having different opinions...then you had to have different sexes...different races...etc. Who knows where it ends?
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Post Tom Sterbens
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Centralized government, ya gotta love it! Laughing

Dude! You SOOOOOOO desperately need a new line!
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Yeah, maybe.

But you good ol boys who support and defend "the system", keep giving so many opportunities to use it. Wink
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Post This Is A Shame That We Are Involved in this. MI6
Why Do These Subjects Continue to be PUSHED on the Church ?

It would appear that while our Denomination - "Movement" is sinking into the world of carnality, culture and materialism that the leadership is only concerned with "reorganizing the chairs on the deck of the Titanic"...

Who is behind this Agenda of topics that have been continually voted down
or rejected by the General Assembly of the Church of God?
1. Is it a handful of East Tennessee Elites that desire power for life?
2. Is it the wives of weak men who are demanding Social Change within the COG because they are not allowed at the seats of power?
3. Is it the Denominational Lawyer that pushes these agenda items because
the Legal Council is afraid of law suits?
4. OR - Is there a sincere set of reasons that I have failed to understand?

A thought on women in ministry - God's list of 70 Nations in Genesis were named after men; the 12 tribes of Israel we lead by the 12 Sons of Jacob; the 12 hand-picked Apostles of Jesus were all men, the replacement for Judas was a man (Paul); the Leader of the Church in Jerusalem was James, ... and the list goes on... NO women were used in a leadership position by God in the formation of the Nations, of Israel or of the Church - so why are the leaders of the COG pushing this subject?

Title of Bishop - This discussion is fruitless and juvenile... focus on the Harvest of Lost Souls and the Discipleship - the soul in Hell could care less if you are a Bishop, Pope, Rev. Bro. or Overseer.

AND YES Presiding Bishop Hill - THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY -
How Many Times Does This Body Have To Say NO Before NO is NO !



We have sacrificed our Evangelism Efforts for the sake of budget cuts that
have not helped the local church and have crippled the Denomination.

The Millions of Dollars that have poured into the YCE Departments and Programs over the last 25 years would have been better spent on Evangelism and Church Planting.
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