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Quiet Wyatt |
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UncleJD |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | Why or why not? |
Yes, if they confessed their faith in Christ. |
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Quiet Wyatt |
| UncleJD wrote: | | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | Why or why not? |
Yes, if they confessed their faith in Christ. |
Sprinkle, pour, or immerse? |
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8/17/16 6:04 pm
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If the baby confesses his faith in Jesus and really understands the Gospel and can give an 'answer of a good conscience before God'.....
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8/17/16 6:43 pm
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"I have also never baptized anyone who didn't have an understanding of the gospel, evidence of being born again and a basic understanding of what baptism/immersion symbolizes. I would not sprinkle a person and call it baptism/immersion, no matter how unintelligent they might be.
But that's me." |
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8/18/16 9:38 am
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Quiet Wyatt |
| Ernie Long wrote: | "I have also never baptized anyone who didn't have an understanding of the gospel, evidence of being born again and a basic understanding of what baptism/immersion symbolizes. I would not sprinkle a person and call it baptism/immersion, no matter how unintelligent they might be.
But that's me." |
Yes, that is what I said. I didn't think I was unclear. |
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8/18/16 9:40 am
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| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | Why or why not? |
Yes, if they confessed their faith in Christ. |
Sprinkle, pour, or immerse? |
I think the Greek Orthodox actually immerse babies.
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8/18/16 9:48 am
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UncleJD |
| Ernie Long wrote: | "I have also never baptized anyone who didn't have an understanding of the gospel, evidence of being born again and a basic understanding of what baptism/immersion symbolizes. I would not sprinkle a person and call it baptism/immersion, no matter how unintelligent they might be.
But that's me." |
So now anyone who says go ahead and sprinkle someone is "unintelligent"? What's wrong with you people? 
(that's a joke btw) |
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8/18/16 9:57 am
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Quiet Wyatt |
| Link wrote: | | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | Why or why not? |
Yes, if they confessed their faith in Christ. |
Sprinkle, pour, or immerse? |
I think the Greek Orthodox actually immerse babies. |
Yes, that is true. |
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8/18/16 10:30 am
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Brandon Bohannon |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | Why or why not? |
I have baptized one infant/toddler and I did so because:
The child was born with multiple health issues that were going to and did lead to the child not living very long (less than four years).
I believe Baptism to be a command of the Lord but symbolic in nature. The symbolism was most important to the grieving young mother and grandmother. I believe the child to be still without "the age/understanding of accountability."
I consulted church history, including our own, as well as conversations with both COG pastors as well as friends pastoring in the Episcopal and Lutheran churches.
My resolution was to have the mom and the hospice nurses to hold the child while I gently washed his face using a cloth and basinet.
Much like a baby dedication, it meant a lot to his family. Something they cherished when it came time for his funeral. I view it as an act of compassion. Jesus will decide if he was truly saved or not.
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8/18/16 11:10 am
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Aaron Scott |
Many years ago, a family that had come out of Catholicism attended our church. A baby was to be dedicated and their tradition was for their to be a baptism (sprinkling). My dad (the pastor) worked with them to do this, ALL WHILE EXPLAINING DURING THE SERVICE THAT IT DID NOT SAVE, THAT THE CHILD WOULD NEED TO BE LED TO THE LORD, ETC.
This allowed people to be told a greater truth, all while honoring their long-standing traditions.
So, yeah, I'd do it...with the clear understanding that it was simply symbolic of, say, faith in the eventual salvation of the child, and that it did not save the child, etc. |
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8/18/16 12:29 pm
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Da Sheik |
| Aaron Scott wrote: | Many years ago, a family that had come out of Catholicism attended our church. A baby was to be dedicated and their tradition was for their to be a baptism (sprinkling). My dad (the pastor) worked with them to do this, ALL WHILE EXPLAINING DURING THE SERVICE THAT IT DID NOT SAVE, THAT THE CHILD WOULD NEED TO BE LED TO THE LORD, ETC.
This allowed people to be told a greater truth, all while honoring their long-standing traditions.
So, yeah, I'd do it...with the clear understanding that it was simply symbolic of, say, faith in the eventual salvation of the child, and that it did not save the child, etc. |
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8/18/16 3:16 pm
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | Why or why not? |
Only if it was a Jesus Only young'un an had spoken in tonguesl
To the genuine Jesus Only feller, folk aint truly saved until they speak in tongues. So, ifn at six month old has spoke in tongues, yep, I'll baptize him. |
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8/19/16 4:46 am
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bonnie knox |
Ole Timer, by tha looks of ya time date on ya post, ya stayed up all night tryin ta figure out how to answer that.
Was ya like tha guy who wondered where the sun went? He stayed up all night studyin on it, and it finally DAWNED on him. |
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| bonnie knox wrote: | | Was ya like tha guy who wondered where the sun went? He stayed up all night studyin on it, and it finally DAWNED on him. |
Yep, at woulda been me, Miss Bonnie. I really struggle with this one here. |
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8/19/16 10:04 am
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Scripturally, baptism is linked to repentance and the remission of sins. A baby has no knowledge of sin and cannot repent. Therefore it would not be scriptural to baptize them.
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8/19/16 7:19 pm
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Brandon Bohannon |
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Not that it matters to those who have made up their mind on this topic but for those that are interested in why some Christians practice infant baptism, I have included TWO instances in the N.T. Church where entire households were baptized.
I do not practice infant baptism with the one exception I mentioned earlier in this thread but I do find learning the entirety of Christian history fascinating.
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| Brandon Bohannon wrote: | Acts 16:33
Acts 18:8
Not that it matters to those who have made up their mind on this topic but for those that are interested in why some Christians practice infant baptism, I have included TWO instances in the N.T. Church where entire households were baptized.
I do not practice infant baptism with the one exception I mentioned earlier in this thread but I do find learning the entirety of Christian history fascinating. |
Again, you cannot cite these passages as proof texts for infant baptism. Other scriptures clearly link baptism to repentance and the forgiveness of sins. Thus the laws of hermeneutics rule out the possibility of infant baptism. Those entire households who were baptized did so because each individual member of that household believed the gospel thus fulfilling Christ's own words, "He who believes and is baptized shall be saved.." (Mark 16:16).
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Brandon Bohannon |
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | Brandon Bohannon wrote: | Acts 16:33
Acts 18:8
Not that it matters to those who have made up their mind on this topic but for those that are interested in why some Christians practice infant baptism, I have included TWO instances in the N.T. Church where entire households were baptized.
I do not practice infant baptism with the one exception I mentioned earlier in this thread but I do find learning the entirety of Christian history fascinating. |
Again, you cannot cite these passages as proof texts for infant baptism. Other scriptures clearly link baptism to repentance and the forgiveness of sins. Thus the laws of hermeneutics rule out the possibility of infant baptism. Those entire households who were baptized did so because each individual member of that household believed the gospel thus fulfilling Christ's own words, "He who believes and is baptized shall be saved.." (Mark 16:16). |
Do you believe that one must be baptized in water in order to be saved? If so, what do you do with the thief on the cross?
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Resident Skeptic |
| Brandon Bohannon wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | | Brandon Bohannon wrote: | Acts 16:33
Acts 18:8
Not that it matters to those who have made up their mind on this topic but for those that are interested in why some Christians practice infant baptism, I have included TWO instances in the N.T. Church where entire households were baptized.
I do not practice infant baptism with the one exception I mentioned earlier in this thread but I do find learning the entirety of Christian history fascinating. |
Again, you cannot cite these passages as proof texts for infant baptism. Other scriptures clearly link baptism to repentance and the forgiveness of sins. Thus the laws of hermeneutics rule out the possibility of infant baptism. Those entire households who were baptized did so because each individual member of that household believed the gospel thus fulfilling Christ's own words, "He who believes and is baptized shall be saved.." (Mark 16:16). |
Do you believe that one must be baptized in water in order to be saved? If so, what do you do with the thief on the cross? |
The "shall be saved" Jesus spoke of in Mark 16:16 is the same thing Paul said saves us in Titus 3:5, "washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost". In the first part of the verse Jesus speaks of "believing and being baptized" as steps unto (towards) that salvation. Those steps are not salvation in and of themselves.
The thief on the cross was not under the New Covenant. The gospel was not yet being preached yet, the Spirit for regeneration was not being offered. The experience of the thief on the cross is irrelevant to New Testament salvation. He could not have received a Christian baptism to begin with because it did not yet exist.
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