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How many here have an Honorary Degree?

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 6385 **4/25/17 9:45 pm**

If so where from ?

01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24285 **4/25/17 10:20 pm**

I ain't telling and be made fun of. But I am sure I have several, all deserved from life experiences! I am sure I have one DSD.. Dr. in Scrubbing decks!

I'm sorry, mine ain't honorary, mine costed $30! Embarassed

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Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16646 **4/26/17 1:20 pm**

No - I would like the honor before I die, however.

Just like to go around and demand people call me Doctor Nature Boy.
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Re: How many here have an Honorary Degree?

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[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 **4/27/17 7:08 am**

Ole Timer, Cojak is a good guy, but I can tell from his post that you still have work to do. Cool

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **4/27/17 1:20 pm**

One of these days, I'm gonna get my Th.D, a doctorate in thinkology, from the Great Oz.

Nope

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Re: How many here have an Honorary Degree?

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 **4/27/17 6:53 pm**

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Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 **4/27/17 7:07 pm**

CASE IN POINT......................

Rick Joyner’s Doctorate is Fake

How do you suppose Rick Joyner, with only a Grade 12 equivalency diploma, obtained his Doctorate in such short order? After all, a real, accredited, bona fide Ph.D. takes about 14 years of very rigorous time-consuming study. Now, I am not trying to infer that Joyner lacks intelligence—that is certainly not the case, but he is deceptive.

For those of you who may not have an academic background, a Bachelor’s degree takes four years to complete, and a Master’s Degree takes and additional two to three years. Both of these degrees must be completed before a Ph.D. is undertaken. As a rule, a Ph.D. will take twice as long as a Bachelor’s degree to complete. That means that to obtain a real (earned and accredited) Ph.D. recognized by the academic community, you would need to complete about fourteen years of post-secondary education. Now, there might be some slight variations in that timeframe based on the particular degree but it won’t vary by much. So, going back to my original question, how did Rick Joyner obtain a Doctorate so quickly? He didn’t.

The number of earned Ph.D. degrees in the United States is 40,000 to 45,000 each year. However, the number of fake PhDs bought each year from diploma mills exceeds 50,000! In other words, more than half of all people in the United States who claim to have a Ph.D., don’t.

As you might have guessed, Rick Joyner’s Doctorate along with that of his Missions Director, Jorge Parrott is fake. Their doctorates came from the North Carolina College of Theology, which claims to be accredited. Sure, and I could crawl into the oven and claim to be a biscuit—whatever. They state that they are a member and independent subsidiary of the Southern Accreditation Association of Christian Schools and Colleges, the American Association of Theological Institutions, and the American Accrediting Education Association of Christian Schools. That must count for something—right? Um no, I’m afraid not. Not one of those associations is recognized by the US Department of Education as a crediting agency—not one.

So, let’s take a look at the *ahem, doctoral program for the North Carolina College of Theology. By golly, would you look at that! It only requires a GED (grade 12 equivalency). Now, as a Master’s Candidate in English, and a holder of two earned Bachelor Degrees, I know full well that no accredited college will ever let someone enter a doctoral program with a GED! To enter a real doctoral program, you must have earned the preliminary degrees, and have an extraordinarily high, grade point average. Not so at the North Carolina College of Theology. No sir, all you need there is experience. Well, experience and money—let’s not forget the money!

North Carolina College of Theology claims accreditation through Accrediting Commission International, Inc. of Beebe, Arkansas (ACI) run by Dr. John Scheel. It turns out “Dr.” Scheel has a fake degree as well. Surprise! His Ph.D. came from the Toledo Bible College and Seminary, which was run out of Ohio by authorities for being a diploma mill. It then changed its name to Trinity Theological Seminary and moved to Indiana where there are fewer regulations. It continues to be a diploma mill. “Dr.” Scheel ran a false accrediting agency in Missouri but was caught in a sting operation by Eric Vieth, the assistant attorney for Missouri. He was subsequently charged with fraud. However, why let a good scam go to waste. He changed the name of his crediting agency from IAC (International Accrediting Commission) to (ACI) Accrediting Commission International and started back up in Beebe Arkansas (Holford, David. “North Carolina College of Theology.” Davids Daily Diversions. 30 July 2011. Web. 19 May 2015).

I guess I can understand why Joyner would get hooked up with a diploma mill. After all, if you are running a so-called University, it’s hard to attract paying students if professors only have a GED. I am in no way trying to demean those who have not obtained a degree, nor am I insinuating that those who have a degree are more qualified to be ministers of the Gospel than those who do not. What I am saying is that claiming you have attained a certain level of educational accomplishment when clearly you have not, is unconscionable and fraudulent.

Not only is Joyner’s own degree false, but he is issuing bogus degrees through his University. His degrees are granted through the same degree mill that his “doctorate” came from. In fact, it states right on MorningStar’s website that their Bachelor’s Degrees are awarded by the North Carolina College of Theology. Oh, and get this. You obtain a bachelor’s degree after just one year. That’s right, why slave away for four years for a real degree when you can go to MorningStar University and be granted a fake degree from a diploma mill after just one year. All you need is one year, oh, and money—don’t forget the money.

Earning a degree means that you have undertaken the prescribed course of study. Having experience is not the same thing as having undertaken a rigorous and regimented peer-reviewed academic course of study over an extended period of time. I would think this goes without saying. I am not sure why someone would lie about this if not for pride or self-promotion.

Fake degrees seem to be rampant among charismatic pastors, and if you take the time to investigate, you will find that the vast majority of big name ministers have purchased and not earned their degrees. Names like TD Jakes, Joyce Meyers, Marilyn Hickey, Paula White, Mike Murdock, oh the list goes on and on but my energy wanes.

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 6385 **4/27/17 9:16 pm**

Here's what gets me about fake degrees. Seems like an awful lot of preachers get them and end up in a higher paying job or at least flaunt them for the positions that they want and no one ever questions the legitimacy of the degree or the integrity of the person flaunting the fake degree.

Now compare that to this. Go ahead and order a PHD or any degree in electrical engineering and see how far that gets you in this profession. Let me save you some time , You would be nothing but a laughing stock from all legitimate business's in this field and would never gain employment from these business's. And they will tell you up front that they dont recognize degrees of the degree mill type.

So why do a lot , and I mean a lot , of Churches turn a blind eye to this and not tell those the same as above?

Re: How many here have an Honorary Degree?

01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24285 **4/27/17 10:38 pm**

Anybody Called Dr. Who Has an Unearned...

Acts-celerater Posts: 875 **4/28/17 8:40 am**

Honorary, or non-legitimately accredited doctorate is a fraud. If you did not earn it by attending classes from an officially accredited university, you should NOT use the title "Doctor." You are pretending to be something you aren't. When you are introduced as "Dr." you are allowing people to assume you have achieved a level of education you haven't. You are lying to people.

In addition, you are discrediting those who have earned it the old fashioned way. Classes + dissertation. This includes all of the guys at the top of the COG. Every assembly period Lee hands out a bunch of honorary doctorates to the new top guys trying to give them a level of credibility in the marketplace. It's fraud!

Dr. FG Minister (yep - it's real)

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