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Da Sheik wrote; | Quote: | | I have witnessed ministers acting rude and disrespectful of hospital staff and it saddens me. |
"Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify your father in heaven".
To me that is a biggie.
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| I am really trying to imagine a scenario in which a minister would be rude or disrespectful of hospital staff, and I just can't. Not looking for a justification for rudeness, but can somebody help me understand what would be the occasion or reason for a minister to be rude to hospital staff? |
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| Carolyn Smith wrote: | | Ernie Long wrote: | if the administrator had not been in the room and acknowledge me and I had not sat in a waiting room with this lady and her siblings for three hours the previous year. I don't think that I was dressed misappropriate for a casual visit. I was shocked that this daughter was even there due to the fact that she and her mother doesn't get along very well.
| bonnie knox wrote: | Well, if a stranger showed up to see my Mom, I'd want to know a thing or two about him myself regardless of how he was dressed.
There are two angles in her questions. One might have been that she didn't think a pastor would dress the way you did and she thought you should have dressed differently. The other might have been that since you didn't fit the profile of what she expected, she wanted to make sure you were who you said you were before she let you see her mother.
The best response probably would have been to assume the latter and introduce yourself to her, giving her information about yourself and about your church and your relationship with her mother. |
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| Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | I am really trying to imagine a scenario in which a minister would be rude or disrespectful of hospital staff, and I just can't. Not looking for a justification for rudeness, but can somebody help me understand what would be the occasion or reason for a minister to be rude to hospital staff? |
Being denied access to a room/patient for various reasons. I've seen guys strut onto a particular floor like they are Pastor Peacock and get huffy if they aren't granted immediate access. The staff takes note of that too !
Additionally, some guys are very loud and abrasive without being sensitive to surrounding patients who may be sleeping. I've heard guys shouting down the hallways like they're at camp meeting.
Conversely, if you leave a great impression, they are much more likely to allow you access even after normal visiting hours or whatever the barrier might be. |
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12/30/16 11:04 am
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| Da Sheik wrote: | | Quiet Wyatt wrote: | | I am really trying to imagine a scenario in which a minister would be rude or disrespectful of hospital staff, and I just can't. Not looking for a justification for rudeness, but can somebody help me understand what would be the occasion or reason for a minister to be rude to hospital staff? |
Being denied access to a room/patient for various reasons. I've seen guys strut onto a particular floor like they are Pastor Peacock and get huffy if they aren't granted immediate access. The staff takes note of that too !
Additionally, some guys are very loud and abrasive without being sensitive to surrounding patients who may be sleeping. I've heard guys shouting down the hallways like they're at camp meeting. |
How ridiculous! Of course, the fact that I actually worked for hospitals for many years and understand the protocol and priorities there makes these things all the more absurd to me.
I do recall once hearing a Pentecostal minister shouting and praying loudly in tongues as well as English in a hospital room on the floor where I happened to be working. Several of the nurses at the station had a big laugh about it, making fun of the whole thing amongst themselves. You could hear the guy all up and down the hallway. It was very awkward and embarrasing to me, as several of the nurses knew that I too was a Pentecostal minister.
Even still, a minister being intentionally disrespectful towards nurses or doctors is really, really hard for me to understand. When I visit someone at a hospital, I am always aware that I am there as a guest. Plus the fact that I usually would rather not be in a hospital, and that I generally do not enjoy hospital visitation, makes me anything but demanding when I do visit the sick there. If they tell me I can't see a patient right now, I just ask the nurse to please let them know I was there, and that I'll try again later. |
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Carolyn Smith |
| bonnie knox wrote: | | Carolyn Smith wrote: | | Ernie Long wrote: | if the administrator had not been in the room and acknowledge me and I had not sat in a waiting room with this lady and her siblings for three hours the previous year. I don't think that I was dressed misappropriate for a casual visit. I was shocked that this daughter was even there due to the fact that she and her mother doesn't get along very well.
| bonnie knox wrote: | Well, if a stranger showed up to see my Mom, I'd want to know a thing or two about him myself regardless of how he was dressed.
There are two angles in her questions. One might have been that she didn't think a pastor would dress the way you did and she thought you should have dressed differently. The other might have been that since you didn't fit the profile of what she expected, she wanted to make sure you were who you said you were before she let you see her mother.
The best response probably would have been to assume the latter and introduce yourself to her, giving her information about yourself and about your church and your relationship with her mother. |
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Ernie said above, "I was shocked that this daughter was even there due to the fact that she and her mother doesn't get along very well."
If the daughter & her mom don't get along well, it could be she is already on the defensive side having to be there with her mom or that she is just one of those people you can't please, no matter what you do or say and is critical of most everything. So perhaps the daughter is hard to get along with, so consider that when facing criticism from her about his appearance.
I understand your comment, but he also said he'd met this lady before and that he was dressed business casual. Sometimes other people's criticism doesn't really have much to do with us personally.
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| Link wrote: | | Did you have big hair with a lot of hairspray and a shoe string necktie on? |
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Amen and good advice.
| FG Minister wrote: | No matter how clean they were and how nice you looked, jeans, a sweatshirt, and tennis shoes are probably considered under-dressed for a minister. I am a very casual pastor and never wear a suit except for funeral's and weddings, but in a hospital I wear khaki slacks and a button-down shirt and nice casual shoes. It is not uncommon for me to interact with doctors, nurses, or other caregivers and I want to represent my profession as best I can.
I know I would not appreciate my doctor coming to see me in jeans, a sweatshirt, and tennis shoes. Yes, it's cultural. No, it doesn't affect one's ability to pray or visit, but sometimes professionalism opens a door and adds to one's ministry. It can remove barriers and cause one to be taken seriously and with more respect. |
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