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Post Kavanaugh and Roberts stab conservatives in the back (L) Nature Boy Florida
Or fetuses in the head as the case may be.

First test of defunding Planned Parenthood funding for abortion - and the two Trump appointees show they can't be counted on...vote to not hear cases.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-leaves-legal-victory-place-planned-parenthood-n945946
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Post UncleJD
Gorsich, the other Trump appointee, voted to hear the case. But point taken, Kavanaugh comes out of the gate a true disciple of his master, as was expected. It doesn't make me sorry to have supported him during the disaster that was the hearings, but I didn't like the pick when it was made. Lets hope Darth Bader retires soon and Trump appoints a true conservative. I hate to be cynical, but it almost seems that God is testing to see just how much damnation America will actually drink in before time is up. Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere
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Post Nature Boy Florida
UncleJD wrote:
Gorsich, the other Trump appointee, voted to hear the case. But point taken, Kavanaugh comes out of the gate a true disciple of his master, as was expected. It doesn't make me sorry to have supported him during the disaster that was the hearings, but I didn't like the pick when it was made. Lets hope Darth Bader retires soon and Trump appoints a true conservative. I hate to be cynical, but it almost seems that God is testing to see just how much damnation America will actually drink in before time is up.


Thanks for the correction JD.

If the abortion debate doesn't turn soon - it probably won't.
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Post Not so Fast p5harri
There's more to this then just a simple "conservative judges fail us" view.

There's possibly an important legal ramification on making sure the cases you take and hope to make a precedent for a conservative view are the ones you really want to win.

In other words you take a court case that will put a stake in the heart of Planned Parenthood for good. Not just one where you hope for a small moral victory.

To give credit - I'm not that smart this was the view of someone I trust who has a decidedly Christian view toward politics.
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Post Re: Not so Fast UncleJD
p5harri wrote:
There's more to this then just a simple "conservative judges fail us" view.

There's possibly an important legal ramification on making sure the cases you take and hope to make a precedent for a conservative view are the ones you really want to win.

In other words you take a court case that will put a stake in the heart of Planned Parenthood for good. Not just one where you hope for a small moral victory.

To give credit - I'm not that smart this was the view of someone I trust who has a decidedly Christian view toward politics.


I don't believe there is ANY "legal ramification" for taking smaller cases when it comes to the SCOTUS, there is no appeal from there. In this case you had TWO precedents set by NOT hearing the case. 1. States rights of funding private companies 2. Federal funding of abortion

Neither of which mean you can't hear further cases on the legality of abortion itself at later dates.

Chipping away, is a perfectly good strategy, and they refused to do it.
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Post Sometimes... Aaron Scott
The conservative principle of being a strict constructionist can come into conflict with other conservative principles (like being against abortion).

I'm not sure that is what happened here, but it is one thing to refuse to hear that case...and another to be for abortion.
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Post Re: Sometimes... UncleJD
Aaron Scott wrote:
The conservative principle of being a strict constructionist can come into conflict with other conservative principles (like being against abortion).

I'm not sure that is what happened here, but it is one thing to refuse to hear that case...and another to be for abortion.


In my opinion, a strict constructionist should have immediately recognized the state is under no obligation to fund Federal programs that fund private companies.

Here's a quote from a likely liberal law prof that seems to be the general consensus in the legal community.

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Tim Jost, an emeritus professor at Washington and Lee University School of Law, said it's "noteworthy" that Kavanaugh passed on the cases.

"If Kavanaugh was going to deal a major blow to health care rights during his first session on the court, this would have been the case to do it," Jost said.



I think the left is laughing at the pro-life movement today. It is yet another solid victory for infanticide. I think they lead the score by about 10000 to 1 over the last 40 years.
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