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Man never had the title or deed to the earth as has already been pointed out, "the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof"

However you can certainly rule and have dominion over something without owning it. Kings of Israel/Judah did not actually own the property they ruled over. They had the inheritance passed on from their forefather which was granted by God...who owns it.

In the old testament theocracy, dominion and rulership having been granted by God to Judah, things went much better(though far from perfect) in Judah than Israel as Judah's kings were from tribe of Judah. When Christ is King of our lives, things go better (though not perfect, NOT because of Christ but because we still dwell in flesh) Of course this will also change at the resurrection when we will be changed to His likeness.

Satan is the god of this world. The prince of the power of the air. He does have power, but none that is not given to him. Man because of sin, is born into the dominion of Satan. But what the Son has made free is free. Believers who put their faith in the Lord and come under the dominion of Christ are free from Satan's dominion. Christians still struggle though and the reason for this struggle is lack of faith. That is those things that we do not trust Christ with and have failed to put under His dominion. Accordingly the failure to do as 2 Corinthians 10:5 "Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ." So even in this Spiritual battle for the believer the battle is thinking like the world more that it is with Satan himself. Christ already won that battle (defeat of Satan) at Calvary! Now we must battle the prideful human spirit (lust of the flesh, lust of the eye and pride of life) that is still with us and will be until we are resurrected and immortalized by Christ.
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Post Re: The "title deed" to the earth... Link
The earth and the world are not the same thing.

The 'earth' is what we call 'earth', the land, the place where we live. It can also refer specifically to the nation of Israel.

A word translated 'world' in the New Testament can also be translated 'age.'

I can't find where God ever gave up the title to the earth. I remember reading part of a Kenneth Copeland sermon on that, and I kept thinking, where did he get the evidence for this theory? You know how WOFers say that God couldn't get into the earth to do anything because man gave the devil the rights, but He could get in through a man, Abraham.

The Old Testament teaches and the New Testament confirms, "The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof." A modern translation might say, "and everything in it."

The land is the LORD's, the cattle is the LORD's. All of us actually belong to God. Satan does not own the earth.

God told man to take dominion over the earth and subdue it. We might think of Adam's role as more along the lines of a regent or steward.

I can understand why your unique friend got upset. I think he could have stayed and tried to persuade a bit.
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I can't find where God ever gave up the title to the earth. I remember reading part of a Kenneth Copeland sermon on that, and I kept thinking, where did he get the evidence for this theory? You know how WOFers say that God couldn't get into the earth to do anything because man gave the devil the rights, but He could get in through a man, Abraham.


Okay, that's interesting to know. Sheds light on where this stuff is coming from.
Link, when I say this person is unique, you have no idea.
Just for clarification also, I do not teach the class. I was actually sitting beside this guy before he jumped up and left. I was being bold to sit beside him.
I appreciate the thoughts in this thread; it has given me some things to chew on.
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Link wrote:
I remember reading part of a Kenneth Copeland sermon on that, and I kept thinking, where did he get the evidence for this theory?


Finally, somebody posts a name connecting it with the origin(s) of the "title deed" motif. This alone should bring exceeding great clarity to the subject at hand. The "title deed" concept is one of myriad tentacles emerging from this doctrinal octopus (woffie) of error.
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