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Old Time Country Preacher |
| R. Keith Whitt wrote: | | Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | "There are no 'new revelations' that render us no longer dependent on the Scriptures." (Christian Doctrine: A Pentecostal Perspective, Vol 1, page 50)
"Illumination of the Spirit does no refer to some 'new revelation' or 'deep hidden meaning.' Illumination is not intended to be a shortcut to scriptural knowledge or to replace exegetical study. (An Introduction to Theology: A Classical Pentecostal Perspective, page 46)
"There is nothing more to be added; God's truth has been fully declared [in the canon of Scripture]." (Truth Aflame: A Balanced Theology for Evangelicals and Charismatics, page 52) |
Your selective quotations do not do justice to these authors. How about a little context to provide the correct perspective of their views regarding the Canon and the ongoing work of the Spirit?
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Keith |
Keith, if you have evidence to the contrary, please post it. From the chapters I read in each of the three citations, each seemed to indicate that per the written Word--the Bible we have today (minus the apocrypha)--the canon is closed. That doesn't mean God doesn't give for example: words of wisdom; words of knowledge; prophetic utterances; tongues/interpretation; etc. However, these operations of the Holy Spirit are not "new revelation" in the sense of "adding to the canon." Nothing needs to be added to the canon and no present tense operation of the Holy Spirit will ever violate, negate, transcend, etc., what is already established eternally in the heavens, i.e., the Word of the Lord. |
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Aaron Scott |
| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | R. Keith Whitt wrote: | | Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | "There are no 'new revelations' that render us no longer dependent on the Scriptures." (Christian Doctrine: A Pentecostal Perspective, Vol 1, page 50)
"Illumination of the Spirit does no refer to some 'new revelation' or 'deep hidden meaning.' Illumination is not intended to be a shortcut to scriptural knowledge or to replace exegetical study. (An Introduction to Theology: A Classical Pentecostal Perspective, page 46)
"There is nothing more to be added; God's truth has been fully declared [in the canon of Scripture]." (Truth Aflame: A Balanced Theology for Evangelicals and Charismatics, page 52) |
Your selective quotations do not do justice to these authors. How about a little context to provide the correct perspective of their views regarding the Canon and the ongoing work of the Spirit?
Thanks,
Keith |
Keith, if you have evidence to the contrary, please post it. From the chapters I read in each of the three citations, each seemed to indicate that per the written Word--the Bible we have today (minus the apocrypha)--the canon is closed. That doesn't mean God doesn't give for example: words of wisdom; words of knowledge; prophetic utterances; tongues/interpretation; etc. However, these operations of the Holy Spirit are not "new revelation" in the sense of "adding to the canon." Nothing needs to be added to the canon and no present tense operation of the Holy Spirit will ever violate, negate, transcend, etc., what is already established eternally in the heavens, i.e., the Word of the Lord. |
Post even more theologians who claim this...it doesn't change the fact that God is still giving revelation. No, you don't NEED it to be saved or know how to live...but then, neither do you need ALL FOUR gospels, when one will do nicely. You don't NEED it to survive, so to speak, but there is blessing and understanding in it that opens greater insight into God's Word and plan.
And it is just as valid as anything in the canon, for it is God's word. |
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| Re: Pentecostal Scholars Speak per a Closed Canon of Scripture |
R. Keith Whitt |
| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | R. Keith Whitt wrote: | | Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | "There are no 'new revelations' that render us no longer dependent on the Scriptures." (Christian Doctrine: A Pentecostal Perspective, Vol 1, page 50)
"Illumination of the Spirit does no refer to some 'new revelation' or 'deep hidden meaning.' Illumination is not intended to be a shortcut to scriptural knowledge or to replace exegetical study. (An Introduction to Theology: A Classical Pentecostal Perspective, page 46)
"There is nothing more to be added; God's truth has been fully declared [in the canon of Scripture]." (Truth Aflame: A Balanced Theology for Evangelicals and Charismatics, page 52) |
Your selective quotations do not do justice to these authors. How about a little context to provide the correct perspective of their views regarding the Canon and the ongoing work of the Spirit?
Thanks,
Keith |
Keith, if you have evidence to the contrary, please post it. From the chapters I read in each of the three citations, each seemed to indicate that per the written Word--the Bible we have today (minus the apocrypha)--the canon is closed. That doesn't mean God doesn't give for example: words of wisdom; words of knowledge; prophetic utterances; tongues/interpretation; etc. However, these operations of the Holy Spirit are not "new revelation" in the sense of "adding to the canon." Nothing needs to be added to the canon and no present tense operation of the Holy Spirit will ever violate, negate, transcend, etc., what is already established eternally in the heavens, i.e., the Word of the Lord. |
OTCP, your initial post of this thread (and some of your others here and elsewhere) seemed to me to indicate you were espousing "Pentecostal" cessationism - God has spoken through His Word, the canon is closed; therefore, there is nothing more to be learned or understood (a view the first author especially would take exception to). Based on Bonnie's post above, I'm not the only one who viewed your arguments this way. This view is often the view of some who are antithetical to the WOF movement. Pendulum swinging too far in the opposite direction....
However, your explanation above is one with which I can agree. I appreciate you taking the time to clarify your position.
Thanks,
Keith
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| Quote: | | Based on Bonnie's post above, I'm not the only one who viewed your arguments this way. |
Apparently I didn't say what I thought I said, but, no matter, I think the questions are being cleared up. |
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| Re: Pentecostal Scholars Speak per a Closed Canon of Scripture |
Resident Skeptic |
| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | R. Keith Whitt wrote: | | Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | "There are no 'new revelations' that render us no longer dependent on the Scriptures." (Christian Doctrine: A Pentecostal Perspective, Vol 1, page 50)
"Illumination of the Spirit does no refer to some 'new revelation' or 'deep hidden meaning.' Illumination is not intended to be a shortcut to scriptural knowledge or to replace exegetical study. (An Introduction to Theology: A Classical Pentecostal Perspective, page 46)
"There is nothing more to be added; God's truth has been fully declared [in the canon of Scripture]." (Truth Aflame: A Balanced Theology for Evangelicals and Charismatics, page 52) |
Your selective quotations do not do justice to these authors. How about a little context to provide the correct perspective of their views regarding the Canon and the ongoing work of the Spirit?
Thanks,
Keith |
Keith, if you have evidence to the contrary, please post it. From the chapters I read in each of the three citations, each seemed to indicate that per the written Word--the Bible we have today (minus the apocrypha)--the canon is closed. That doesn't mean God doesn't give for example: words of wisdom; words of knowledge; prophetic utterances; tongues/interpretation; etc. However, these operations of the Holy Spirit are not "new revelation" in the sense of "adding to the canon." Nothing needs to be added to the canon and no present tense operation of the Holy Spirit will ever violate, negate, transcend, etc., what is already established eternally in the heavens, i.e., the Word of the Lord. |
Amen. The Spirit, even through the gifts, will only further our understanding of the one , true revelation, the bible. He will always seek to drive our anchor deeper into that which it has already been driven, the holy writ.
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R. Keith Whitt |
| bonnie knox wrote: | | Quote: | | Based on Bonnie's post above, I'm not the only one who viewed your arguments this way. |
Apparently I didn't say what I thought I said, but, no matter, I think the questions are being cleared up. |
Bonnie,
I once gave a lecture to a post-graduate group in England about the process that ensues from the time something (specifically, Scripture) is written to the application by the latest reader. The group and I concluded that original intent is usually left laying in the road along the way 
Keith
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