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"open letter to Trump supporters" (L) |
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bonnie knox |
...just in case we don't have enough Trump threads....  |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 3/2/16 11:06 pm

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Nature Boy Florida |
I guess its cool to bash Trump.
Romney up next. He loves to bash other Reps. like 4 years ago - but when he got in debate with Obama - he had nothing but nice things to say. Makes you wonder. _________________ Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because its the best thing going today! |
Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16646 3/3/16 5:43 am

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| Quote: | | Mr. Trump’s relentless focus is on dividing Americans, and on tearing down rather than building back up this glorious nation. |
Not true. Sometimes the truth divides people, even if dividing them was not the "focus" in spreading that truth. _________________ "It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves UPCI |
Acts-dicted Posts: 8065 3/3/16 7:10 am
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Here's another thing that puzzles me.
People like this Nebraska Senator who support the Tea Party agenda, will think nothing of endorsing a RINO who opposes the Tea Party that winds up winning the nomination. He would think nothing of unifying around McCain or Romney (men who would call the Tea Party a bunch of nut cases) for the "good of the party". Yet, he will NOT endorse a Trump who actually WILL promote MUCH of the Tea Party agenda, all because he is "rude", and instead will support a 3rd party candidate.
Pathetic.
If General Patton was alive today, I guess this same Senator would be calling him unfit to command because of his rough personality. _________________ "It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves UPCI
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Acts-dicted Posts: 8065 3/3/16 9:34 am
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There is some left handed logic in the letter, but I still think it is better to give an unknown a chance than the known.
The Unknown is 'impeachable' the known is not.
I wait to see after Romney's 'Speech of the Ages' as is billed by some news media, if Trump's stock goes up. He did ask for Trumps support when he was running. Of course (honest qualifier) that did not mean he agreed with Trump.
If the 'planned' attacks by GOP leaders weren't so obvious, it may not look so bad. But this looks like an obvious desperate 'Last ditch KILL attack' it just might back fire. _________________ Some facts but mostly just my opinion!
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01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24285 3/3/16 10:54 am

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| Cojak wrote: | There is some left handed logic in the letter, but I still think it is better to give an unknown a chance than the known.
The Unknown is 'impeachable' the known is not.
I wait to see after Romney's 'Speech of the Ages' as is billed by some news media, if Trump's stock goes up. He did ask for Trumps support when he was running. Of course (honest qualifier) that did not mean he agreed with Trump.
If the 'planned' attacks by GOP leaders weren't so obvious, it may not look so bad. But this looks like an obvious desperate 'Last ditch KILL attack' it just might back fire. |
That's about what Bill O'Reilly said last night. |
Acts-dicted Posts: 7604 3/3/16 12:23 pm
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bonnie knox |
I really don't see anything in the open letter that suggests Sasse's objections to Trump are about Trump being rude or coarse. Did you?
The main thrust of his objections seems to be that he feels Trump would take a very dim view of upholding the constitution and recognizing the balance of power between governmental branches.
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | Here's another thing that puzzles me.
People like this Nebraska Senator who support the Tea Party agenda, will think nothing of endorsing a RINO who opposes the Tea Party that winds up winning the nomination. He would think nothing of unifying around McCain or Romney (men who would call the Tea Party a bunch of nut cases) for the "good of the party". Yet, he will NOT endorse a Trump who actually WILL promote MUCH of the Tea Party agenda, all because he is "rude", and instead will support a 3rd party candidate.
Pathetic.
If General Patton was alive today, I guess this same Senator would be calling him unfit to command because of his rough personality. |
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[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 3/3/16 12:29 pm

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Resident Skeptic |
| bonnie knox wrote: | I really don't see anything in the open letter that suggests Sasse's objections to Trump are about Trump being rude or coarse. Did you?
The main thrust of his objections seems to be that he feels Trump would take a very dim view of upholding the constitution and recognizing the balance of power between governmental branches.
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | Here's another thing that puzzles me.
People like this Nebraska Senator who support the Tea Party agenda, will think nothing of endorsing a RINO who opposes the Tea Party that winds up winning the nomination. He would think nothing of unifying around McCain or Romney (men who would call the Tea Party a bunch of nut cases) for the "good of the party". Yet, he will NOT endorse a Trump who actually WILL promote MUCH of the Tea Party agenda, all because he is "rude", and instead will support a 3rd party candidate.
Pathetic.
If General Patton was alive today, I guess this same Senator would be calling him unfit to command because of his rough personality. |
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None of Trump's proposals violate the Constitution. It is a President's job to see to it Federal immigration laws are enforced. He can seal the border to thwart invasion.
He can undo Obama's executive orders.
Congress has already voted to abolish Obamacare.
Trade deals go through Congress.
What are these supposed areas Trump can be a dictator in? _________________ "It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves UPCI |
Acts-dicted Posts: 8065 3/3/16 1:36 pm
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bonnie knox |
Thanks for acknowledging that it's not just that Trump is coarse and vulgar that folks are opposed to him.
I'm not answering for Sasse, but this is in the open letter that Sasse wrote, which indicates that Sasse doesn't believe Trump is even concerned about the integrity of the First Amendment:
Statements from Trump:
***“We’re going to open up libel laws and we’re going to have people sue you like you’ve never got sued before.”
***“When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. They were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak…”
***Putin, who has killed journalists and is pillaging Ukraine, is a great leader.
***The editor of National Review “should not be allowed on TV and the FCC should fine him.”
***On whether he will use executive orders to end-run Congress, as President Obama has illegally done: "I won't refuse it. I'm going to do a lot of things." “I mean, he’s led the way, to be honest with you.”
***“Sixty-eight percent would not leave under any circumstance. I think that means murder. It think it means anything.”
***On the internet: “I would certainly be open to closing areas” of it.
***His lawyers to people selling anti-Trump t-shirts: “Mr. Trump considers this to be a very serious matter and has authorized our legal team to take all necessary and appropriate actions to bring an immediate halt...”
***Similar threatening legal letters to competing campaigns running ads about his record. |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 3/3/16 1:50 pm

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Old Time Country Preacher |
| bonnie knox wrote: | ...just in case we don't have enough Trump threads....  |
Who is Trump? |
Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 3/3/16 3:23 pm
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bonnie knox |
| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | bonnie knox wrote: | ...just in case we don't have enough Trump threads....  |
Who is Trump? |
The soon coming king.  |
[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 3/3/16 3:26 pm

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Eddie Robbins |
| bonnie knox wrote: | | Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | bonnie knox wrote: | ...just in case we don't have enough Trump threads....  |
Who is Trump? |
The soon coming king.  |
To some, it seems. The sad thing is how Christians are supporting this man given the long list of immoral things he has been a part of and says. The same people that blasted Clinton. Amazing! |
Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16509 3/3/16 3:42 pm
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bonnie knox |
I think I'll bump this just to bring my total of the last couple of months to FOUR Trump threads.
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[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 10/28/16 7:33 pm

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Dean Steenburgh |
| bonnie knox wrote: | I think I'll bump this just to bring my total of the last couple of months to FOUR Trump threads.
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Taking a little swipe there bonnie?  _________________ "Empty nest syndrome is for the birds!"
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Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4682 10/28/16 7:42 pm
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UncleJD |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | bonnie knox wrote: | | Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | bonnie knox wrote: | ...just in case we don't have enough Trump threads....  |
Who is Trump? |
The soon coming king.  |
To some, it seems. The sad thing is how Christians are supporting this man given the long list of immoral things he has been a part of and says. The same people that blasted Clinton. Amazing! |
Its not that simple. He has been immoral, I don't like him, I hate that he was the nominee, I wrestled with voting for him, IF Gary Johnson had polled higher I would have voted for him instead. I voted for Trump, I hope he wins. But I don't think that means that I believe any of the horse-radish about him being a savior, king, champion, etc..., it just means he happens to be NOT-Hillary and when it came down to it, that meant a little more than the huge list of negatives on his part. If he does not win, I won't blame anyone who chose not to vote for him for a long list of good reasons, I'll blame the ones who voted for him in the primary who knew he was just a big flip-off to the world and had no chance against a serious candidate from the other party, and I'll blame a candidate who couldn't seem to keep his mouth shut when it would have been profitable to do so.
Had my wife and daughter continued to be against him more than they were against Hillary, then I might not have voted for him out of respect for them. But since they saw him as the only means to defeat the serious, calculated, purposeful evil that is embodied by Hillary Clinton and voted for him themselves then I did as well.
Either side of the Trump debate that simplifies this to the point where you're either not as good of a Christian as they are if you vote for Trump, or you are not a true conservative, republican, or whatever if you don't, will need to reconcile that in their own minds. I don't really blame anyone either way having been burdened with the decision for a long time myself.
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Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3147 10/28/16 8:35 pm

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c6thplayer1 |
I had to stop reading , my blood pressure went up and I started playing Metallica and Motorhead on my steel..  |
Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 6385 10/28/16 9:34 pm

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Brandon Bohannon |
| UncleJD wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | bonnie knox wrote: | | Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | bonnie knox wrote: | ...just in case we don't have enough Trump threads....  |
Who is Trump? |
The soon coming king.  |
To some, it seems. The sad thing is how Christians are supporting this man given the long list of immoral things he has been a part of and says. The same people that blasted Clinton. Amazing! |
Its not that simple. He has been immoral, I don't like him, I hate that he was the nominee, I wrestled with voting for him, IF Gary Johnson had polled higher I would have voted for him instead. I voted for Trump, I hope he wins. But I don't think that means that I believe any of the horse-radish about him being a savior, king, champion, etc..., it just means he happens to be NOT-Hillary and when it came down to it, that meant a little more than the huge list of negatives on his part. If he does not win, I won't blame anyone who chose not to vote for him for a long list of good reasons, I'll blame the ones who voted for him in the primary who knew he was just a big flip-off to the world and had no chance against a serious candidate from the other party, and I'll blame a candidate who couldn't seem to keep his mouth shut when it would have been profitable to do so.
Had my wife and daughter continued to be against him more than they were against Hillary, then I might not have voted for him out of respect for them. But since they saw him as the only means to defeat the serious, calculated, purposeful evil that is embodied by Hillary Clinton and voted for him themselves then I did as well.
Either side of the Trump debate that simplifies this to the point where you're either not as good of a Christian as they are if you vote for Trump, or you are not a true conservative, republican, or whatever if you don't, will need to reconcile that in their own minds. I don't really blame anyone either way having been burdened with the decision for a long time myself. | This pretty well sums up how I feel too. _________________ Proverbs 3:5-6; John 13:34-35; Acts 1:8 |
Acts-celerater Posts: 571 10/29/16 9:08 am
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UncleJD
| Quote: | | Either side of the Trump debate that simplifies this to the point where you're either not as good of a Christian as they are if you vote for Trump, or you are not a true conservative, republican, or whatever if you don't, will need to reconcile that in their own minds. I don't really blame anyone either way having been burdened with the decision for a long time myself. |
Very concise way to put it!  _________________ "Empty nest syndrome is for the birds!"
Email me at: SteenburghDean@gmail.com
Church planters are focused on just one thing ...introducing people to Jesus!
What are you focused on? |
Golf Cart Mafia Capo Famiglia Posts: 4682 10/29/16 3:57 pm
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