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Re: Theolojohn,

Golf Cart Mafia Associate Posts: 2160 **3/3/06 4:16 pm**

Hey,

Hey, DOC Posts: 98 **3/3/06 4:19 pm**

I believe that this subject of toys and such is a question that can only be answered by the couple. I think it is more about personal conviction than anything. The anal approach is unhealthy, for sure, but if two consenting adults that are married seek this I say tell them to go to the Creator of sex.

If a couple desires toys, again, if they ask the One who made it, He will give them an answer. If a couple has toys, and one of the two start without the other, then not only is there possibly something wrong in the marriage but I would venture to say that there is something wrong spiritually, too. I personally don't want to start without my wife. But, hey, that's just me.

As a general rule though, have them talk to God about what is sacred and holy in their bedroom.

Peace!!
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Re Janitor

Friendly Face Posts: 418 **3/3/06 6:28 pm**

Tigerlily, Have you ever counseled a couple that had a good healthy marriage until they started using "other things" to help them out in the bedroom?
I have had 2 couples that experienced this very thing and if I were a pastor posed with this question today, I would have to say "go with what God gave you naturally"

And do you remember several years ago about the ring of "housewives" who were having sex toy partys and got busted and arraigned?
In some states apparently it is even illegal to sell the toys.

In Song of Solomon, it talks about the love between man and woman and very erotically, but where does it say they had to use a ---?
When people get older I guess they don't have the same Solomon Song experience, but I think God covered that base, too, and not with viagra.
My age is somewhere in between these 2 scenarios, but I don't want to be 80 and taking or using something to replace feelings I had.
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Heb 13:4Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled

Friendly Face Posts: 123 **3/3/06 7:07 pm**

Heb 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Re Janitor

Member Posts: 35 **3/4/06 9:20 am**

No, I am not a counsellor. Let us all breathe a sigh of relief that I am not.
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Re: An interesting sexual question.

Newbie Posts: 8 **3/4/06 9:19 pm**

if anal is wrong what about oral would it be the same difference

Several comments

Supreme Commander Posts: 2558 **3/4/06 11:56 pm**

Would anyone here even admit to personal use of...

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1499 **3/5/06 2:39 pm**

sex toys, or having anal??? Can I even ask that here?? There just seem to be a lot of well educated people on here.. I'm wondering how many are educated from personal experience...

Let's see if this gets deleted... Surprised

Re Beebs

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1302 **3/5/06 3:05 pm**

You said "Animals don't do it because it feels good." Evidently you have never been around rabbits. It takes a male rabbit about 5 seconds to make contact with a female, and he goes absolutely hysterical after sex. Not trying to be graphic, that is just how it is.
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I have stayed away from this thread until now

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1360 **3/5/06 3:12 pm**

Someone told me once that only 3 "animals" have sex for pleasure

1. Man (No we are not really "animals" but...)
2. Rabbits
3. - Get this.... - Porcupines!

I don't know if that is true but it makes for good conversation.

Now I am thru with this thread.
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That's a good argument for toys.

Supreme Commander Posts: 2558 **3/5/06 7:22 pm**

Maybe the Catholic leadership is right

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16646 **3/5/06 9:08 pm**

Maybe God only made sex for procreation and once we divorced it from that biblical command "be fruitful and multiply", we opened ourselves up to toys, anal, whatever?

I have historically believed the Catholics were way off there but as I get older and sex has continued to get more perverted and our women have found more need for augmentation, tucking, rejuvenation, etc... to keep us "happy".., we might need to rethink all of it. Their literature warned against this stuff 40 years ago (about the time of widespread birth control use by married couples) and most of what they predicted came true.

I have seen the "undefiled" marriage bed argument here and I believe that is the best argument we have...but are we right?
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Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1794 **3/5/06 9:19 pm**

It's interesting how popular this thread is........

Acts Mod Posts: 2135 **3/5/06 11:32 pm**

I have just a couple of comments..................
1. Frankly, I can't speak to the "right" or "wrong" of anal sex. I can only speak to how I feel about it which is ICK! Rolling Eyes

2. Toys? I don't see anything wrong with them at all - I don't mind saying that Wade and I have never used them but I can't see where it would be wrong.
3. Sex only for procreation? NOT Rolling Eyes

God isn't boring - he didn't intend for us to be boring. Sexual intimacy in the marriage bed was intended to be glorious.
If you think about it - sex is often the one and ONLY thing that a husband and wife keep solely to themselves. We share our time, our energy, our homes, our money, our thoughts, our joy, our sadness and pretty much everything else. Sex is a beautiful expression that a man and wife keep for only themselves and I think God intended it to be that way. I don't believe for a minute that it's only for procreation.
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Well said, Racey!

Supreme Commander Posts: 2558 **3/6/06 1:18 am**

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Re: An interesting sexual question.

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1169 **3/6/06 1:28 am**

TMI to the extreme.

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1086 **3/6/06 7:53 am**

Anal-Retentive?

Friendly Face Posts: 247 **3/6/06 8:29 am**

Has this thread digressed or what? Perhaps there needs to be a board called "For Mature Audiences" Everyone there would declare they are at least 18 years of age. Password protect it like the moderator board.

Thoughts?
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Re: spicing up the bedroom

Friendly Face Posts: 418 **3/6/06 9:38 am**

There are so many diverse comments on this thread it is hard to know which one to comment on specifically.

Personally, I have heard that to obstain from eating odiferous spicey foods for 24 hours and eat only fresh fruits (strawberries, apples, kiwis,) Broiled chicken (NO GARLIC) then your body releases only sweet, pleasant odors (man or woman).

But the comment from the Beebs was directed at a comment I made about not using Viagra,
but I stated when I was 80 I didn't think there would be cause for the same excitement shared in the bedroom when I was 20.

And know one has yet commented on the fact that purchasing most of these toys in some areas is a crime.

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And as you can tell I'm not quite chat room literate with my quotes and boldness, sorry
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Dr. Yo's Sexual Advice Column...

Acts-dicted Posts: 8625 **3/6/06 12:39 pm**

First, tigerlily, your "fat-bottomed girls" signature line has to go in this conversation. Period! (smile)

OK.....

Now, folks, I tend along the same thinking that is most evident here: that the type-of-sex-that-is-not-to-be-named is "out-there" and is not natural in the fullest meaning of the word.

But if we want only NATURAL, then only, er, animal-style positioning is all that would be allowable. And at the very most, we'll throw in the missionary position. Now, who here in their right mind will admit that in all their years of sexual experience they never had the sexual creativity to get beyond these two old-school positions? If so, I pity your spouse! Ha!

You don't have to read the Kama Sutra to figure out that there's more than one way to thread--never mind!

NOT that those positions they are unworthy, unpleasing, somehow not the best of them all, but simply because there are also plenty more ways of doing things.

I imagine that anyone who has been married over a year--actually, over a week--has deviated (hence, "deviant") from these quite acceptable positions.

And then--what is this world coming to???--some of you have had the audacity to engage in oral...I can't even go there!

Am I the ONLY person her that can stand up and make the claim that I have NEVER engaged in self-abuse or oral-you-know-what???? Where have all the DECENT PEOPLE in this world gone?

Now, I'm making a point here. If the you-know-what isn't for sex, well, the mouth probably isn't either. The POINT of it all is this: once we start to decide for people what is acceptable between a man and his wife, we wind up having a very large book, because dressing up like Batman and Catwoman ain't got no place in all this either!

Here's what we do: we simply set down scriptural principles. And those are to love one another...which includes considering one another...to not engage in behavior that is contrary to scripture (pornography, adultery, three-somes, etc.).

I say we take a "don't ask, don't tail--I mean tell" approach to this. Yes, it WOULD bother me to know that a couple in the church engage in such behavior. I don't want to know! I don't think I'd be able to look at you the same.

BUT...so long as both are acting in love (not one forcing anything upon another) and within scriptural guidelines, I have zero scriptural reason to limit it.

You'll recall that Isaac was seen "sporting" with his wife. That sounds a bit advanced, if you know what I mean.

Now, if you go beyond what is right in YOUR heart, you'll feel condemnation. That is, if YOU feel wrong about engaging in such things, then, since you are called to work out YOUR salvation, you had better obey that voice, otherwise you'll be "offended."

But don't let some prude tell you how to conduct your private, sexual business. Swing from the light fixtures, dress like Zorro, and ENJOY! Othewise, it won't be long until you only get to "do it" once every quarter, on the full moon, and fully clothed, and no one is allowed to enjoy it.

I will say this: if you have to ASK whether it's right or wrong, chances are it's wrong for you. You may do it, but you'll feel badly later, I imagine. Whatever the voice of the Spirit is saying is RIGHT.

Now, it may be, if I may hobby-horse here for a moment, that someone will get a divine revelation that certan forms of sexual behavior in a marraige are wrong. Fine. But until then, if you're heart condemn you not...enjoy.

Love.