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| bonnie knox wrote: | DrDuck, do you think the dream Link mentioned in the original post is NOT from the Lord or is the verdict still out as far as you are concerned. If you feel it was just indigestion, what makes you think that? Is it because the dream seems odd or because it's just, in your way of thinking, statistically unlikely to be from the Lord? Or something else?
| DrDuck wrote: | Link wrote:
"Supposing a dream is from the Lord, do you think God would be pleased with people who dismiss it as pizza? Would God find it funny? "
Well, supposing a dream is from pizza, do you think God would be pleased with people who claim it is from God? Would God find that funny? It works both ways.
Fact is, there are more such dreams sourced in intestinal distress than those that genuinely come from God. A dream from God would be clearly identified as such by God without a doubt. A healthy combination if intuition, intelligence and discernment is always appropriate. Ignore this and you will encounter severe disillusionment, disappointment and find yourself deceived. |
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Actually, I don't have enough information nor am I familiar enough with the people involved to make such a final decision. However, I do generally take a skeptical stance toward most dreams claimed to be from God. My previous observation is a generalization. I do believe that a true dream from God would leave no room for skepticism. It would be an experience hard to differentiate from an actual experience of reality.
I personally have vivid dreams and do not remember much about most of them. I know the Bible says that Spirit filled old men will dream dreams. But I know of few that I think were given as a message from God.
Once in a while I do have one that does make me wonder. Just last week I dreamed that I saw a slender individual dressed in a blood red garment. I am not sure if it was a loose fitting suit or a red robe. The individual came close and embraced me and spoke of appreciation of something I had done for him and how much it meant to him. It was only after I awoke that I recognized that it was a former member (now deceased) who I appointed as the choir directer at a church when I was his pastor. Whether from God or pizza I cannot say. But it was a pleasant dream. |
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5/25/16 1:48 pm
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I believe we need to be careful about being too skeptical about the idea of God giving dreams, especially when we are talking about people who have the Spirit of God living in them. Most of the references to dreams in the Bible seem to be about genuine dreams from the Lord. A couple of the prophets had to deal with the issue of false prophets and men telling dreams that weren't according to what God had revealed. So we do need to be discerning.
If someone stood up in church and gave a prophecy or interpretation of tongue, I would certainly try to be respectful of it. Unless the person prophesied something that was really obviously wrong (like encouraging people to sin, saying to worship false gods, praising the Devil, etc.) we should not too easily dismiss it, and we should be respectful while we discern it. I think we should have the same reverence toward the idea of the Lord speaking through dreams.
I don't think that dreams have to look and feel just like real life to be from the Lord. Some people have dreams that look just like real life. I don't really think much in pictures, and my dreams don't look exactly like what I see with my eyes, even the ones that I believe are from the Lord. I don't think that's a criteria that tells whether a dream is from the Lord or not. Some of these things may be individual. John Paul Jackson seemed to think black and white dreams weren't from the Lord. I'd never even heard of someone dreaming in black and white. It has never happened to me. But maybe that is an individual thing for him.
As far as pizza and dreams go, I haven't noticed a connection between my digestive system and dreams. I haven't noticed any kind of food making me dream more. I don't think I've ever had a dream that I had gas or other intenstinal problems and woken up to having gas. So the whole pizza and dream thing never made sense to me. Does anyone else notice a connection between their dreams and their digestion? If so, please share the details.
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| Link wrote: | I believe we need to be careful about being too skeptical about the idea of God giving dreams, especially when we are talking about people who have the Spirit of God living in them. Most of the references to dreams in the Bible seem to be about genuine dreams from the Lord. A couple of the prophets had to deal with the issue of false prophets and men telling dreams that weren't according to what God had revealed. So we do need to be discerning.
If someone stood up in church and gave a prophecy or interpretation of tongue, I would certainly try to be respectful of it. Unless the person prophesied something that was really obviously wrong (like encouraging people to sin, saying to worship false gods, praising the Devil, etc.) we should not too easily dismiss it, and we should be respectful while we discern it. I think we should have the same reverence toward the idea of the Lord speaking through dreams.
I don't think that dreams have to look and feel just like real life to be from the Lord. Some people have dreams that look just like real life. I don't really think much in pictures, and my dreams don't look exactly like what I see with my eyes, even the ones that I believe are from the Lord. I don't think that's a criteria that tells whether a dream is from the Lord or not. Some of these things may be individual. John Paul Jackson seemed to think black and white dreams weren't from the Lord. I'd never even heard of someone dreaming in black and white. It has never happened to me. But maybe that is an individual thing for him.
As far as pizza and dreams go, I haven't noticed a connection between my digestive system and dreams. I haven't noticed any kind of food making me dream more. I don't think I've ever had a dream that I had gas or other intenstinal problems and woken up to having gas. So the whole pizza and dream thing never made sense to me. Does anyone else notice a connection between their dreams and their digestion? If so, please share the details. |
The scriptural admonition to "try the spirits" most certainly suggest a careful skepticism should be applied to such things as dreams purported to be God given. There can be no danger whatsoever to using both spiritual discernment and common sense as a tool to decide such issues. To throw yourself open to just anything is to fall for everything and there is no wisdom from God nor from nature in such an approach.
As to what becomes the inspiration for the mind to construct dreams; bodily discomfort (even from Pizza) or mental distress most certainly seems to be a construct for my own dream experience.
So, I will choose to keep my healthy attitude of advisable skepticism and play it safe rather than sorry. Since this on advice of scripture, I don't think I can go wrong. |
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5/27/16 11:59 am
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| Quote: | | Does anyone else notice a connection between their dreams and their digestion? If so, please share the details. |
My experience is not that I have gas or indigestion, but that spicy foods can affect my dreams and make them a little wilder.
When I was pregnant, I had weirder and more violent dreams and I think that is common to the hormonal changes that accompany pregnancy.
I remember when my sister was a teenager and had surgery, the pain medication gave her nightmares which caused her to jerk awake. They changed to a different medicine that didn't cause that problem.
I also know a man who started taking Alzheimer medicine which caused him to have bizarre dreams. When his neurologist told him to half the dosage, he seemed to be fine.
I'm saying it doesn't have to be a physical discomfort causing the dreams to be more vivid; it can be the chemicals in the spices, like tripping out on mushrooms. |
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| Now that some time has elapsed, has there been any clarity brought to bear on this dream? |
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| Carolyn Smith wrote: | ...
There are some "pizza dreams" and flakes, but at times (not all the time) God can speak to us through our dreams...if we're listening.
Apparently, everything's a big joke here, Link. |
Some times it does seem that way. Bonnie stated up front, this is what she thought.
Evidently no one had an impression or an interpretation of the dream, enough to say "The dream is THIS".
If I had made the post, like Link I would be disappointed when someone wanted to hijack the post. It could easily be read, considered and go on to another post.
I have had it happen a couple times when I was really burdened about my son.
Link is seldom on the light side and does live in a different culture than we. But it does hurt some when we are not taken seriously. You all know I am for fun and levity. I love a good laugh, but not at someone's expense (except maybe Tom S. that's  . ) As Red Skeleton used to say, "God Bless".
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I've moved far away. I could Facebook someone about it, but I'd rather just leave it be.
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