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Eddie Robbins |
| How do you video this happening to your spouse? I just read where his blood and fingerprints are on the gun. Of course, it will be said that the police planted it. |
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9/23/16 3:39 pm
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| UncleJD wrote: | http://www.cnn.com/videos/justice/2016/09/23/charlotte-keith-lamont-scott-cell-video.cnn/video/playlists/charlotte-police-shooting-protest/
This is a tragic video to say the least. I hurt for the family regardless of who was in the right or wrong.
Here's what I see and hear
1. Wife tells the police not to shoot him
2. She tells them again
3. You hear the police telling him to "put down the gun", (more than once)
4. You hear her say he doesn't have a gun.
5. She tells Keith to get out of the car (obey the officer)
6. She then starts yelling "Keith, don't you do it! " 4 times
7. While she is yelling "Keith, don't you do it", you hear the police shouting "drop the gun!"
Now, IF Keith doesn't have a gun, then my biggest question is what is she telling Keith not to do? As she's yelling that, the cops are yelling "drop the gun" and both she and the cops are escalating their pleas.
Either way, it is sad, but I can't believe that cops would just start yelling "drop the gun, over and over for several seconds" just so they could shoot a black man. Something was happening.
I believe I heard the wife or another family member on TV say "it is legal to have a gun". It was on Bill O'Reilly. So I tend to believe that he did indeed have a gun and was pointing it at the police. She left her "he doesn't have a gun" plea fairly quickly and never said it again even when the cops kept yelling "drop the gun", she changed to "Keith don't do it!". |
My question is Why cant the protesters and agitators analyze the situation like this? Are their brains capable of root cause analyzation or are they just blinded by hate? |
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9/23/16 3:43 pm
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| Quote: | | She then starts yelling "Keith, don't you do it! " |
Is she saying "Keith, don't you do it!" or "Keith! Don't you do it." The reason I ask is that I can envision her calling her husband's name, then alternately telling the cops "Don't you do it" because there has already been an indication that she thought the cop was going to break out the car windows with the baton or even "Don't you do it" because she realizes the cop is ready to shoot. |
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9/23/16 6:43 pm
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bonnie knox |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | How do you video this happening to your spouse? I just read where his blood and fingerprints are on the gun. Of course, it will be said that the police planted it. |
If I were around when the cops were interacting with anyone I knew, you better know I would be filming if I were able. |
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9/23/16 6:45 pm
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bonnie knox |
| Quote: | | So I tend to believe that he did indeed have a gun and was pointing it at the police. |
Why would you believe he was pointing it at the police? The police chief said there was no definitive evidence that Scott pointed the gun at police. Of course, that doesn't mean Scott wasn't still considered a threat, but why jump to the conclusion that he was pointing it at the police after the chief denied video showed that? |
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9/23/16 6:54 pm
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bonnie knox |
Attorney Justin Bamberg doesn't make any bones about where he stands.
"This man literally didn't do anything to warrant, I think, the shooting.... You don't see a firearm in those videos at all."
http://www.wral.com/news/state/video/16042112/
| UncleJD wrote: | | bonnie knox wrote: | | Quote: | | I heard the lawyer for the Charlotte family on TV this morning asking that the video be released. He said it would likely change the situation in Charlotte, hinting that, yet again, there is clear evidence for a justified shooting. |
I'm not following you here. Why would the lawyer "for the Charlotte family" (I'm assuming you're talking about Justin Bamberg, lawyer for family of Keith Scott) be eager to have a video released that would show a justified shooting? Wouldn't it be in his interest as a lawyer for the family to show that the shooting was NOT justified? |
He said it would change the situation in Charlotte. Showing it was unjustified certainly would not do that. Not every family holds on to a false story even when the facts are against them. Of course he could mean "change it for the worse" |
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9/23/16 7:24 pm
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| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | How do you video this happening to your spouse? I just read where his blood and fingerprints are on the gun. Of course, it will be said that the police planted it. |
And instead of her being grief-stricken and saying. "OMG, they shot him!" She's saying over & over, "He better live." Weird!!
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9/24/16 10:36 am
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c6thplayer1 |
| bonnie knox wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | How do you video this happening to your spouse? I just read where his blood and fingerprints are on the gun. Of course, it will be said that the police planted it. |
If I were around when the cops were interacting with anyone I knew, you better know I would be filming if I were able. |
Bonnie , you could film a thug with a rocket launcher ready to shoot the cops and there would still be protest and riots. All they see is a white racist devil. |
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9/24/16 10:48 am
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UncleJD |
| bonnie knox wrote: | Attorney Justin Bamberg doesn't make any bones about where he stands.
"This man literally didn't do anything to warrant, I think, the shooting.... You don't see a firearm in those videos at all."
http://www.wral.com/news/state/video/16042112/ |
I haven't seen the other videos yet, but the one I saw you couldn't see the cops guns either. I did here a woman go from "he doesn't have a gun" to "Keith don't do it!" over and over while the same time the cops are saying "drop the gun".
I'm not saying cops don't make mistakes, they do. In fact I've learned my lesson and will never call the cops again when my family is around, they are way too suspicious of everyone and could shoot someone just for coming around a corner too fast. I don't believe its a black thing though, I'm pretty sure they've shot their fair share of whites who were unarmed as well. But on the other hand, cops are targets of criminals, they usually get shot doing the most routine things, simple traffic stops many times end with dead cops. They have a hard job and I wouldn't want my cop family member to take any chances either. They have families too. |
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9/24/16 11:40 am
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| Carolyn Smith wrote: | | famousflavius wrote: | | Have you heard anything about people being brought in from other areas to be protestors? |
I read that 70% of people arrested have out of state ID. |
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9/24/16 3:40 pm
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bonnie knox |
I don't think it's weird. I think she was very angry at the moment because a cop had shot her husband. If she already had the expectation that cops would use excessive force (whether or not she is justified in that expectation), the natural reaction is anger, not surprise.
| Carolyn Smith wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | How do you video this happening to your spouse? I just read where his blood and fingerprints are on the gun. Of course, it will be said that the police planted it. |
And instead of her being grief-stricken and saying. "OMG, they shot him!" She's saying over & over, "He better live." Weird!! |
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9/24/16 6:33 pm
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Carolyn Smith |
| bonnie knox wrote: | I don't think it's weird. I think she was very angry at the moment because a cop had shot her husband. If she already had the expectation that cops would use excessive force (whether or not she is justified in that expectation), the natural reaction is anger, not surprise.
| Carolyn Smith wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | How do you video this happening to your spouse? I just read where his blood and fingerprints are on the gun. Of course, it will be said that the police planted it. |
And instead of her being grief-stricken and saying. "OMG, they shot him!" She's saying over & over, "He better live." Weird!! |
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Seems like she would be more concerned about her husband being dead than being mad at the police. I understand she'd be angry too but I'd be talking to my husband, not the police.
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9/24/16 7:43 pm
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I am sitting about 8 miles from the riots and you would never know it was happening. At one time I worked exactly where my son says the riots are taking place. All I see is contradictory reports on the internet. I tried to watch the news on TV and it was just as confusing.
I do not know anyone who works down town now so being this close, I still do not know anymore than a person in California.
I certainly feel for the businesses and innocents caught up in the mad mash. I always wonder how the professionally printed signs show up so rapidly after one of these incidents happen.
I did see a graphic where the pistol was shown on the ground, but like was said, I assume the ones who will not believe the shooting was unavoidable will say is was planted, like in a lot of movies (and some real life).
I seriously believe that race relations have been set back 50-60 years.
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9/24/16 10:46 pm
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bonnie knox |
| Quote: | Seems like she would be more concerned about her husband being dead than being mad at the police. I understand she'd be angry too but I'd be talking to my husband, not the police.
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Your life is a lot different from hers; it might be hard to put yourself in her shoes. |
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9/24/16 10:49 pm
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I also read today that the NATO commission on human rights published the statement that the white on black killings was akin to the KKK lynchings of many years ago.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT. I believe that the Blacks lynched were MOSTLY INNOCENT MEN who crossed a line the early white men drew. Today many of the blacks who have been shot were actually committing a crime and refused to obey a lawful order, 'DROP THE GUN' or Put the weapon down, or some other order from a LEO. I also do not give every LEO a pass, some could very well be racist, but not all of them. IMHO.
I do despise the killings. I am not sure it is always best to aim at the center of body mass, I know the rule, I know the reason, but I am sure shooting a man in the thigh of leg would would throw him off enough to subdue him. Again, MO. 
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9/24/16 10:56 pm
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bonnie knox |
| Quote: | | I did see a graphic where the pistol was shown on the ground, but like was said, I assume the ones who will not believe the shooting was unavoidable will say is was planted, like in a lot of movies (and some real life). |
Cojak, it's interesting that the attorney for the Keith Scott family is the same attorney, Justin Bamberg, who represented the family of Walter Scott, the man who was shot by a North Charleston police officer. Walter Scott's family got a large settlement from North Charleston, and the police officer is scheduled to be tried for murder next month. The officer claimed that Walter Scott took his taser. Later, video surfaced that had been taken by a bystander which showed the officer pick up something from where the two tussled then take it and drop it by Walter Scott's body.
So evidence planting does happen, but my gut feeling is that the pistol was not planted in this case. Like you say, though, people will believe what they want to believe. |
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9/24/16 11:17 pm
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| Re: family cell-phone video released (L) |
georgiapath |
| UncleJD wrote: | http://www.cnn.com/videos/justice/2016/09/23/charlotte-keith-lamont-scott-cell-video.cnn/video/playlists/charlotte-police-shooting-protest/
This is a tragic video to say the least. I hurt for the family regardless of who was in the right or wrong.
Here's what I see and hear
1. Wife tells the police not to shoot him
2. She tells them again
3. You hear the police telling him to "put down the gun", (more than once)
4. You hear her say he doesn't have a gun.
5. She tells Keith to get out of the car (obey the officer)
6. She then starts yelling "Keith, don't you do it! " 4 times
7. While she is yelling "Keith, don't you do it", you hear the police shouting "drop the gun!"
Now, IF Keith doesn't have a gun, then my biggest question is what is she telling Keith not to do? As she's yelling that, the cops are yelling "drop the gun" and both she and the cops are escalating their pleas.
Either way, it is sad, but I can't believe that cops would just start yelling "drop the gun, over and over for several seconds" just so they could shoot a black man. Something was happening.
I believe I heard the wife or another family member on TV say "it is legal to have a gun". It was on Bill O'Reilly. So I tend to believe that he did indeed have a gun and was pointing it at the police. She left her "he doesn't have a gun" plea fairly quickly and never said it again even when the cops kept yelling "drop the gun", she changed to "Keith don't do it!". |
Why in the world would she have her husband there unless she wanted him to get shot, then she could sue and collect money from the city. I think all the protesters were paid to be there, I doubt if a single one of them have a real job. This kind of thing is exactly what Obama and the democrats want. |
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9/26/16 7:56 am
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bonnie knox |
| Quote: | | Why in the world would she have her husband there unless she wanted him to get shot, then she could sue and collect money from the city. |
He was in a vehicle in the parking lot of his apartment complex, waiting for his son to get off the school bus. There's nothing unreasonable about that. |
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9/26/16 8:12 am
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is there no common sense advice to people that when Police say to do something, then DO IT. It I were told to get out the car with my hands up, you BET I WOULD. The problem appears that people have no respect for authority and are not going to let someone tell them what to do.
Especially in today's world, I cannot imagine a policeman/woman would be so stupid as to purposely shoot an unarmed person. They surely have good reason to suspect the person has a weapon or they would not shoot the civilian knowing full well it is likely being filmed. That would apply regardless of whether the cop was racist.
The police are being put in the situation where they have to be shot first before they can defend themselves. Even then, they would be accused of escalating the situation. Obama has set race relations back 50 years by his constant premature accusations of racism in the vast majority of the supposed unjustified police shootings.
The Police are better people than me. If it were up to me, I would say "you want to police yourselves, go ahead". I think the Police should abandon the inner city and let them fight it out themselves. The Police are in an absolute no win situation. I am sure there are instances where Police have been too quick on the draw, but in this environment, they are being forced to make split second life or death decisions and sometimes they are wrong. I am also sure there are racist cops. The blacks are wanting to protest, but WHAT is their solution. In many instances, the Police Chief is also black. Do they think the Chief condones the murder of innocents? Of chorse not. Do we end up with White's not being allowed to be Police Chiefs. Maybe the solution is to only allow blacks police the inner city? Then, the cry would be simply Police brutality rather than racism. Again, I say, let the Police withdraw from the situation and see what happens. |
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9/26/16 9:37 am
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