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c6thplayer1 |
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: |  |
And when did those people die that are pictured? It was not until 1943, that the Nazis knew that it was all over, that the "Final Solution" was implemented. While Jews were persecuted in Germany in the 30's, there were no mass killings. |
This is simply not true, RS. True, the Final Solution went into full swing in 1943, but there were numerous mass killings prior to that. Study ya history, son, an don't be tryin to pull one over on the ole timer. |
This is an example of exactly why we need OT on this site. Thanks OT!!!!!!! |
Another intellectual giant contributes nothing to the topic. |
Thats because I dont spread falsehoods about something I know nothing about. |
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10/21/16 4:08 pm
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UncleJD |
RS, let me ask you a question.
Do Jews have too much power in global financial markets? |
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10/21/16 4:24 pm
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Resident Skeptic |
| UncleJD wrote: | RS, let me ask you a question.
Do Jews have too much power in global financial markets? |
You're a sick man. I kind of laughed off your anti-Trumpism, but now I see your true spirit. You'll be voting for Hillary. It's plain to see now.
Let me ask you, did we do the right thing allying with a mass murderer and then giving half of Europe to him for 50 years?
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10/21/16 4:54 pm
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Resident Skeptic |
| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | | c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | |
And when did those people die that are pictured? It was not until 1943, that the Nazis knew that it was all over, that the "Final Solution" was implemented. While Jews were persecuted in Germany in the 30's, there were no mass killings. |
This is simply not true, RS. True, the Final Solution went into full swing in 1943, but there were numerous mass killings prior to that. Study ya history, son, an don't be tryin to pull one over on the ole timer. |
This is an example of exactly why we need OT on this site. Thanks OT!!!!!!! |
Another intellectual giant contributes nothing to the topic. |
Thats because I dont spread falsehoods about something I know nothing about. |
Well you got one part right, you obviously know nothing about this topic.
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10/21/16 4:55 pm
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UncleJD |
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | RS, let me ask you a question.
Do Jews have too much power in global financial markets? |
You're a sick man. |
For asking a question? Ok
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | I kind of laughed off your anti-Trumpism, but now I see your true spirit. You'll be voting for Hillary. It's plain to see now. |
That's a ridiculous accusation and also untrue since I've stated many times the exact opposite. In fact you who nominated the man have all but handed the presidency to HRC with full knowledge of what you were doing.
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | Let me ask you, did we do the right thing allying with a mass murderer and then giving half of Europe to him for 50 years? |
That alliance was one of convenience to stop the Nazis who had trampled over the entire European continent and was ended the minuted Germany surrendered as you well know.
As for your PM, get over yourself, you are a pen-name I have not disparaged your reputation, you have been pretty thorough with that yourself. Consistently espousing wacko conspiracy theories and posting nonsense like this (its your thread, did you expect everyone to agree with you?) |
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10/21/16 6:00 pm
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Resident Skeptic |
To those who are serious students of history, Pat Buchanan has an excellent book on this topic called, "Hitler, Churchill, and the Unnecessary War". On C-Span, he gave an excellent interview about the book....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSI5LkRGOKg
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10/21/16 6:35 pm
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diakoneo |
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | To those who are serious students of history, Pat Buchanan has an excellent book on this topic called, "Hitler, Churchill, and the Unnecessary War". On C-Span, he gave an excellent interview about the book....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSI5LkRGOKg |
Pat Buchanan has a tendency toward anti semitism. That is coming from William F. Buckley. I would not trust a book from someone with such bias. Consider the source, as they say. |
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10/21/16 7:56 pm
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Resident Skeptic |
| diakoneo wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | To those who are serious students of history, Pat Buchanan has an excellent book on this topic called, "Hitler, Churchill, and the Unnecessary War". On C-Span, he gave an excellent interview about the book....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSI5LkRGOKg |
Pat Buchanan has a tendency toward anti semitism. That is coming from William F. Buckley. I would not trust a book from someone with such bias. Consider the source, as they say. |
He absolutely does not have a tendency towards anti-Semitism. I have read the book and watched the interview. If you are going to make such charges, you should at least take the time to watch this interview and then point out all of the anti-Semitic points in Buchanan's speech.  It seems that the definition of "anti-Semitisms" to some Christians is simply wanting to stay out of middle-eastern wars. Ron and Rand Paul share similar views. Are they also "anti-Semitic". Good grief.
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10/21/16 8:10 pm
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Cojak |
Every war was unnecessary in hind sight. Someone should have negotiated, stood fast, took another route,etc. But those things cannot be proven because we just don't have a do-over button.
The worst war for the USA was our own uncivil war. Surely, Surely someone could have worked this out! BUT THEY DID NOT!
I guess I am not understanding The position of Hitler. I still believe most of our history books on Hitler and Germany I was too young to go, but my brothers Uncles and cousins went to war. None of my family was lost.
From what I can remember of my mama's talks with Hermann Lauster, Hitler was just as described in my history books.
But that is just me, and I am pretty shallow and believe too much in our USA.
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10/21/16 8:26 pm
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Resident Skeptic |
| Cojak wrote: | Every war was unnecessary in hind sight. Someone should have negotiated, stood fast, took another route,etc. But those things cannot be proven because we just don't have a do-over button.
The worst war for the USA was our own uncivil war. Surely, Surely someone could have worked this out! BUT THEY DID NOT!
I guess I am not understanding The position of Hitler. I still believe most of our history books on Hitler and Germany I was too young to go, but my brothers Uncles and cousins went to war. None of my family was lost.
From what I can remember of my mama's talks with Hermann Lauster, Hitler was just as described in my history books.
But that is just me, and I am pretty shallow and believe too much in our USA. |
Hitler's position is pretty clear. He wanted the Jews out of Europe. He unjustly blamed the entire race for a deal made between Lord Balfour and some German Jewish bankers and other leaders. He referred to this as the "great stab in the back". It was a stupid position to take. Most Jews had been faithful to the Kaiser and many had given their lives in WW1 for Germany. Hitler did let some Jews fight in the German military and some were even high ranking. The circumstances around these vary.
None of my positions on this thread questioned Hitler's wickedness. I only questioned our response to him and whether or not a different approach would have been better. But like you said, it's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback. I just enjoy such discussions of history.
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10/21/16 8:36 pm
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diakoneo |
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | diakoneo wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | To those who are serious students of history, Pat Buchanan has an excellent book on this topic called, "Hitler, Churchill, and the Unnecessary War". On C-Span, he gave an excellent interview about the book....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSI5LkRGOKg |
Pat Buchanan has a tendency toward anti semitism. That is coming from William F. Buckley. I would not trust a book from someone with such bias. Consider the source, as they say. |
He absolutely does not have a tendency towards anti-Semitism. I have read the book and watched the interview. If you are going to make such charges, you should at least take the time to watch this interview and then point out all of the anti-Semitic points in Buchanan's speech. It seems that the definition of "anti-Semitisms" to some Christians is simply wanting to stay out of middle-eastern wars. Ron and Rand Paul share similar views. Are they also "anti-Semitic". Good grief. |
Do you think a person(Buckley) who Buchanan looked up to would use that term (anti semitism) lightly?
If Buckley accused Buchanan of it, I will trust him. |
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10/21/16 9:05 pm
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Resident Skeptic |
| diakoneo wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | | diakoneo wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | To those who are serious students of history, Pat Buchanan has an excellent book on this topic called, "Hitler, Churchill, and the Unnecessary War". On C-Span, he gave an excellent interview about the book....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSI5LkRGOKg |
Pat Buchanan has a tendency toward anti semitism. That is coming from William F. Buckley. I would not trust a book from someone with such bias. Consider the source, as they say. |
He absolutely does not have a tendency towards anti-Semitism. I have read the book and watched the interview. If you are going to make such charges, you should at least take the time to watch this interview and then point out all of the anti-Semitic points in Buchanan's speech. It seems that the definition of "anti-Semitisms" to some Christians is simply wanting to stay out of middle-eastern wars. Ron and Rand Paul share similar views. Are they also "anti-Semitic". Good grief. |
Do you think a person(Buckley) who Buchanan looked up to would use that term (anti semitism) lightly?
If Buckley accused Buchanan of it, I will trust him. |
I like Buckley. But just think of all the names he was called. What about other just as prominent voices who defend Buchanan against these charges, including some Jews? Why do you prefer Buckley's opinion over all others? Have you considered that Buckley may have had a very broad interpretation as to what constitutes "anti-Semitism"? It is no secret that Buchanan thinks Israel holds too much sway in our government. I completely agree. That is not a slam on Israel. Every "friend" we have looks out for their own interests above ours. But for some reason when someone points this out, they are "anti-Semitic".
In the book and video link I posted, Pat is pondering how the lives of millions of Jews could have been spared and and an evil contained. There is nothing said that stems from a dislike of Jews.
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