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| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | spartanfan wrote: | I'll ask you since you were there. Did he sing in a choir, solo, duet or quartet? Did he have any solo lines at all or was he featured in any way? Did anything set him out in front (not just being a voice blended into a group)? Was his name printed or spoken? Was this person spotlighted in any way? You said you were there and nobody asked you about his involvement - so I'll ask  |
Neal Coomer sang with my niece. It was great!! I posted a picture of it on my FB wall. |
He used to sing in the big, open, uncomfortable communal shower on the third-floor of Hughes hall too. 
good voice though |
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By Lee allowing him to sing or participate in the service could easily lead him to believe they are condoning his way of living (in sin). That would be no difference than allowing an Evangelist come hold you a revival knowing he was in an adulterious relationship. We would not allow our pastor, if he were in a homosexual relationship or a hetrosexual adultry, preach in our pulpit.
That is how sin creeps into our life and into our churches - a little bit at a time - until we become de-senisitive to it.
Homosexuality is an abomination and should not be accepted anywhere in the Church of God or any church for that matter.
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One comment that won't change anyone's mind on this but for clarity sake:
this was not a service nor any type of 'spiritual' gathering,
it was a reception Honoring the Conns.
Just fyi.....carry on |
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Eddie Robbins |
| mytwocents wrote: | One comment that won't change anyone's mind on this but for clarity sake:
this was not a service nor any type of 'spiritual' gathering,
it was a reception Honoring the Conns.
Just fyi.....carry on |
And a private one. Lots of secular music. It was incredible! |
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10/4/16 12:38 pm
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Eddie Robbins |
| THE LOVE OF GOD wrote: | By Lee allowing him to sing or participate in the service could easily lead him to believe they are condoning his way of living (in sin). That would be no difference than allowing an Evangelist come hold you a revival knowing he was in an adulteries relationship. We would not allow our pastor, if he were in a homosexual relationship or a hetrosexual adultry, preach in our pulpit.
That is how sin creeps into our life and into our churches - a little bit at a time - until we become de-senisitive to it.
Homosexuality is an abomination and should not be accepted anywhere in the Church of God or any church for that matter. |
Actually, it's the other way around. He understands the deal. He wasn't there to flaunt his lifestyle. He was very humble and unassuming. He didn't bring his spouse. He knows what the school stands for. It is nice that Lee can welcome one of it's sons back in a loving way. Can you imagine how he would feel if Danny Murray was fired because somebody with a pen name on a discussion board called for it? We all have issues in our lives but some like to rank sins and call for firings. Unbelievable. |
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| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | THE LOVE OF GOD wrote: | By Lee allowing him to sing or participate in the service could easily lead him to believe they are condoning his way of living (in sin). That would be no difference than allowing an Evangelist come hold you a revival knowing he was in an adulteries relationship. We would not allow our pastor, if he were in a homosexual relationship or a hetrosexual adultry, preach in our pulpit.
That is how sin creeps into our life and into our churches - a little bit at a time - until we become de-senisitive to it.
Homosexuality is an abomination and should not be accepted anywhere in the Church of God or any church for that matter. |
Actually, it's the other way around. He understands the deal. He wasn't there to flaunt his lifestyle. He was very humble and unassuming. He didn't bring his spouse. He knows what the school stands for. It is nice that Lee can welcome one of it's sons back in a loving way. Can you imagine how he would feel if Danny Murray was fired because somebody with a pen name on a discussion board called for it? We all have issues in our lives but some like to rank sins and call for firings. Unbelievable. |
As far as ranking sins goes - it's quite Biblical since Jesus did it. Just sayin' |
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Eddie Robbins |
| spartanfan wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | THE LOVE OF GOD wrote: | By Lee allowing him to sing or participate in the service could easily lead him to believe they are condoning his way of living (in sin). That would be no difference than allowing an Evangelist come hold you a revival knowing he was in an adulteries relationship. We would not allow our pastor, if he were in a homosexual relationship or a hetrosexual adultry, preach in our pulpit.
That is how sin creeps into our life and into our churches - a little bit at a time - until we become de-senisitive to it.
Homosexuality is an abomination and should not be accepted anywhere in the Church of God or any church for that matter. |
Actually, it's the other way around. He understands the deal. He wasn't there to flaunt his lifestyle. He was very humble and unassuming. He didn't bring his spouse. He knows what the school stands for. It is nice that Lee can welcome one of it's sons back in a loving way. Can you imagine how he would feel if Danny Murray was fired because somebody with a pen name on a discussion board called for it? We all have issues in our lives but some like to rank sins and call for firings. Unbelievable. |
As far as ranking sins goes - it's quite Biblical since Jesus did it. Just sayin' |
Where did Jesus rank homosexuality? What is His top 10? |
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| Ok, So it was a private party not an official University event. |
aprilmay2.0 |
Assuming that much is true then that leads to a few other questions:
1. was it hosted on campus?
2. did students participate?
3. who funded the event?(travel, food, planning etc)
I don't want anyone fired. Especially Danny Murray, but these are questions that would be asked of churches and other ministries if an event that conflicted with their beliefs occurred.
Maybe this political season has caused me to be too suspicious and too negative. I just don't think there's a place for endorsing/promoting/celebrating the homosexual lifestyle at Lee by allowing active homosexuals an opportunity to sing on a stage.
If Hillary Clinton held a private fundraiser at Lee, it would be all over this board.
If Black Lives Matter movement held a party in the Conn center it would be all over this board.
If the Rainbow coalition held a meeting in the Centenary Room, it would be all over this board.
Is this on the same level? |
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10/4/16 3:00 pm
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THE LOVE OF GOD |
| Brother, I wasn't calling for anyone to be fired. (Whoever asked him to participate in this celebration needs to know that it is not acceptable with Christians.) Bro. Conn has done a TREMENDOUS job at Lee. My son and grandson are graduates of Lee and another grandchild will be going soon, so we definitely love Lee. Of all the good singers that are known in the COG, there should have been a better selection in my opinion. I just can't condone his singing at a COG school. I believe and am all for forgiveness from God and people. Jesus came to seek and to save those who are lost. |
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Eddie Robbins |
Probably not as much because this board has a strange fascination with homosexuality. Its the number one sin, of course.
Instead of celebrating 30 years of Lee College becoming Lee University and the schoool it has become by a man who has given ALL to it, y'all would rather talk about someone's lifestyle. It wasn't flaunted. Someone had to go snooping on the guy's Facebook page. They probably searched for pictures too. Weird fascinations around here. Maybe pen names are really just folks in the closet. |
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spartanfan |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | spartanfan wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | THE LOVE OF GOD wrote: | By Lee allowing him to sing or participate in the service could easily lead him to believe they are condoning his way of living (in sin). That would be no difference than allowing an Evangelist come hold you a revival knowing he was in an adulteries relationship. We would not allow our pastor, if he were in a homosexual relationship or a hetrosexual adultry, preach in our pulpit.
That is how sin creeps into our life and into our churches - a little bit at a time - until we become de-senisitive to it.
Homosexuality is an abomination and should not be accepted anywhere in the Church of God or any church for that matter. |
Actually, it's the other way around. He understands the deal. He wasn't there to flaunt his lifestyle. He was very humble and unassuming. He didn't bring his spouse. He knows what the school stands for. It is nice that Lee can welcome one of it's sons back in a loving way. Can you imagine how he would feel if Danny Murray was fired because somebody with a pen name on a discussion board called for it? We all have issues in our lives but some like to rank sins and call for firings. Unbelievable. |
As far as ranking sins goes - it's quite Biblical since Jesus did it. Just sayin' |
Where did Jesus rank homosexuality? What is His top 10? |
Since Jesus is God (YHVH) and the 2nd person of the Holy Trinity and He showed us how He felt about sodomy with the fire and brimstone He rained down upon Sodom and Gomorrah, since I can't find ten other examples of His anger against sin in the Bible on a scale greater than that dramatic display, I think it's safe to say that homosexuality is up there in His top 10. |
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Have I attended private events where those who live openly gay were invited? Yes!
Have I hosted such an event & asked someone who lives openly gay to entertain us? No!
Can we separate our convictions in private sessions vs spiritual sessions?
Would a muslim event (private or spiritual) allow such a thing?
Are we of less conviction or do we lower the expectations we have have so that one of such sin can dwell amongst us so freely?
Would you feel comfortable knowing that such a one is invited to sing a special song at your church this Sunday?
We send them the wrong message when we applaud their talents in an event where Christians & church leaders are present & nobody says a word for fear of being labeled obstinate.
My Grand father & Great Grand father (former CoG ministers) are rolling over in their graves at the idea of such a thing happening regardless of who is receiving the honor.
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Eddie Robbins |
| spartanfan wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | spartanfan wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | THE LOVE OF GOD wrote: | By Lee allowing him to sing or participate in the service could easily lead him to believe they are condoning his way of living (in sin). That would be no difference than allowing an Evangelist come hold you a revival knowing he was in an adulteries relationship. We would not allow our pastor, if he were in a homosexual relationship or a hetrosexual adultry, preach in our pulpit.
That is how sin creeps into our life and into our churches - a little bit at a time - until we become de-senisitive to it.
Homosexuality is an abomination and should not be accepted anywhere in the Church of God or any church for that matter. |
Actually, it's the other way around. He understands the deal. He wasn't there to flaunt his lifestyle. He was very humble and unassuming. He didn't bring his spouse. He knows what the school stands for. It is nice that Lee can welcome one of it's sons back in a loving way. Can you imagine how he would feel if Danny Murray was fired because somebody with a pen name on a discussion board called for it? We all have issues in our lives but some like to rank sins and call for firings. Unbelievable. |
As far as ranking sins goes - it's quite Biblical since Jesus did it. Just sayin' |
Where did Jesus rank homosexuality? What is His top 10? |
Since Jesus is God (YHVH) and the 2nd person of the Holy Trinity and He showed us how He felt about sodomy with the fire and brimstone He rained down upon Sodom and Gomorrah, since I can't find ten other examples of His anger against sin in the Bible on a scale greater than that dramatic display, I think it's safe to say that homosexuality is up there in His top 10. |
The fact is, Jesus didn't address it but nice try. |
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10/4/16 3:41 pm
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Eddie Robbins |
| Dean Steenburgh wrote: | Have I attended private events where those who live openly gay were invited? Yes!
Have I hosted such an event & asked someone who lives openly gay to entertain us? No!
Can we separate our convictions in private sessions vs spiritual sessions?
Would a muslim event (private or spiritual) allow such a thing?
Are we of less conviction or do we lower the expectations we have have so that one of such sin can dwell amongst us so freely?
Would you feel comfortable knowing that such a one is invited to sing a special song at your church this Sunday?
We send them the wrong message when we applaud their talents in an event where Christians & church leaders are present & nobody says a word for fear of being labeled obstinate.
My Grand father & Great Grand father (former CoG ministers) are rolling over in their graves at the idea of such a thing happening regardless of who is receiving the honor. |
First of all, this had nothing to do with church. It was honoring a president of a university. Second, if it would have been most any other "sin," it wouldn't be discussed. Again, you guys have a weird fascination about homosexuality. |
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| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | It wasn't flaunted. |
Sorry man.
It WAS flaunted by giving him a featured slot on campus - and if Danny Murray set this up. Shame on him.
And perhaps if no one at Lee saw anything wrong with it - we have been hiring the wrong folks for a while now.
I am ashamed of Lee in this instance.
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| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | Maybe pen names are really just folks in the closet. |
Nice try man.
When there is no defense for something complain about pen names.
Or call someone gay.
Or double down and call pen names gay.
I submit that apparently pen names are required in this instance - since Danny Murray or Paul Conn do not have a Nathan to stand up and tell them they made a mistake here.
Any of us with kids at the college still need our scholarships.
Any of us that want our kids in a music group dont need to get on the bad side of one of the leaders.
We have no power on our own.
We simply stand to lose something we cant afford to lose.
So bash pen names all you want. Insinuate we are gay. We are right nonetheless.
This. Was. Wrong.
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Dean Steenburgh |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | Dean Steenburgh wrote: | Have I attended private events where those who live openly gay were invited? Yes!
Have I hosted such an event & asked someone who lives openly gay to entertain us? No!
Can we separate our convictions in private sessions vs spiritual sessions?
Would a muslim event (private or spiritual) allow such a thing?
Are we of less conviction or do we lower the expectations we have have so that one of such sin can dwell amongst us so freely?
Would you feel as comfortable knowing that such a one is invited to sing a special song at your church this Sunday?
We send them the wrong message when we applaud their talents in an event where Christians & church leaders are present & nobody says a word for fear of being labeled obstinate.
My Grand father & Great Grand father (former CoG ministers) are rolling over in their graves at the idea of such a thing happening regardless of who is receiving the honor. |
First of all, this had nothing to do with church. It was honoring a president of a university. Second, if it would have been most any other "sin," it wouldn't be discussed. Again, you guys have a weird fascination about homosexuality. |
Eddie, I'm not fascinated with the sins of gays & I get it, your family member was honored & thats a big thing ...no issue there.
However, when did we become people who accommodate the sinner?
Would you have felt nearly as comfortable with your niece singing alongside a guy who is known for philandering?
We can't call someone out for gluttony.
I don't know when somebody is into idols.
Pride may be a personal issue but it comes across loud & clear & nobody makes a cause out of it or demands special treatment.
The gay thing probably stands out far greater these days due to the movement they have created & their demands for over the tope equal treatment.
Do you work a job where you are the decision maker as to whether or not your business complies with non-descriptive bathroom signs? I pastor a church, own a small business & help the elementary school around the corner. Every one of these places is feeling the impact of gay rights right now due to their blatant demands & getting laws passed here in California that give them 'special' treatment ...not just equal treatment.
So yeah ...it's kind of an issue right now when it comes to accommodating their lifestyles & giving them a spotlight at a Christian event.
Paul Conn was honored for his 30 years of service where? Lee U? Well it's kind of a big deal when the most prestigious Pentecostal Univ. in the nation recognizes it's president & we allow people to entertain us who live a lifestyle that is in complete opposition to what we teach, believe & read in God's word.
Where & when do people take a stand?
I trust our university enough to send my own kids & our church youth there for their education.
I just don't want even a glimmer of compromise as it relates to homosexuality & this has the shine of glimmer all over it.
It's bad enough that we have the gay issues on campus that we do right now without having to invite someone to a private event who lives openly gay with his husband. The gay students & possibly gay faculty see this event as a positive for their cause if a gay man is received with applause.
Yeah ...it's kind of a big deal!
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spartanfan |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | spartanfan wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | spartanfan wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | THE LOVE OF GOD wrote: | By Lee allowing him to sing or participate in the service could easily lead him to believe they are condoning his way of living (in sin). That would be no difference than allowing an Evangelist come hold you a revival knowing he was in an adulteries relationship. We would not allow our pastor, if he were in a homosexual relationship or a hetrosexual adultry, preach in our pulpit.
That is how sin creeps into our life and into our churches - a little bit at a time - until we become de-senisitive to it.
Homosexuality is an abomination and should not be accepted anywhere in the Church of God or any church for that matter. |
Actually, it's the other way around. He understands the deal. He wasn't there to flaunt his lifestyle. He was very humble and unassuming. He didn't bring his spouse. He knows what the school stands for. It is nice that Lee can welcome one of it's sons back in a loving way. Can you imagine how he would feel if Danny Murray was fired because somebody with a pen name on a discussion board called for it? We all have issues in our lives but some like to rank sins and call for firings. Unbelievable. |
As far as ranking sins goes - it's quite Biblical since Jesus did it. Just sayin' |
Where did Jesus rank homosexuality? What is His top 10? |
Since Jesus is God (YHVH) and the 2nd person of the Holy Trinity and He showed us how He felt about sodomy with the fire and brimstone He rained down upon Sodom and Gomorrah, since I can't find ten other examples of His anger against sin in the Bible on a scale greater than that dramatic display, I think it's safe to say that homosexuality is up there in His top 10. |
The fact is, Jesus didn't address it but nice try. |
You crack me up. You are not a Theologian. You just "in a quip" dismiss that the 2nd Person of the Godhead was involved in what happened at Sodom and Gomorrah? Study Genesis 18 and the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and see if you can find Jesus anywhere in it.
"Then the Lord appeared to him by the terebinth trees of Mamre, as he was sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day. So he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing by him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them, and bowed himself to the ground, and said, “My Lord, if I have now found favor in Your sight, do not pass on by Your servant.” (Genesis 18:1–3)
Theologians generally agree that that is one of the many Theophanies of Jesus (appearing on earth before the incarnation) as it mentions “the Angel of the Lord.” You cannot argue against the fact that there are appearances of the pre-incarnate Christ (Christ before He came in the flesh) and the visit to Abraham on the way to Sodom and Gomorrah (to reveal to His friend what He is about to do) is one of them.
The “Angel” is referred to with masculine pronouns (Genesis 16:13; Judges 6:21).
He is identified as God (Judges 6:11, 14; Zechariah 12:8).
He performed miracles (Judges 6:21; 13:20).
Gideon and Manoah thought they would die because they saw the “Angel” face to face (Judges 6:22; 13:22).
The “Angel” accurately foretold future events (Judges 13:3).
His name is “wonderful” (Judges 13:18; Isaiah 9:6).
He destroyed 185,000 soldiers of the Assyrian army in one night (2 Kings 19:35).
While angels have occasionally performed some of these actions, such as miracles and prophecy, there are clear examples when “the Angel of the Lord” cannot be viewed as a normal angel. He is occasionally identified as God, accepted worship, and at least two people who saw Him thought they would die for seeing Him face to face. These same attributes and activities are clearly attributed to God elsewhere in Scripture. (All of this according to answersingenesis.org)
Finally, “the Angel of the Lord” does not make any appearances after the birth of Christ in the New Testament, although the risen Jesus did appear to Saul on the road to Damascus (Acts 9:1–6; 22:6–10; 26:14–19; 1 Corinthians 9:1; 15: .
These truths have led many students of Scripture to conclude that “the Angel of the Lord” in Genesis 18 in the Old Testament is none other than Christ Himself. In the Old Testament He is called God, given attributes of God, seen by people, worshiped, and distinguished from the Father and Spirit.
So Jesus said according to Genesis 18:17-25, “Should I hide my plan from Abraham?” God asked. 18 “For Abraham shall become a mighty nation, and he will be a source of blessing for all the nations of the earth. 19 And I have picked him out to have godly descendants and a godly household—men who are just and good—so that I can do for him all I have promised.” 20 So the Lord told Abraham, “I have heard that the people of Sodom and Gomorrah are utterly evil, and that everything they do is wicked. 21 I am going down to see whether these reports are true or not. Then I will know.” 22-23 So the other two went on toward Sodom, but the Lord remained with Abraham a while. Then Abraham approached him and said, “Will you kill good and bad alike? 24 Suppose you find fifty godly people there within the city—will you destroy it, and not spare it for their sakes? 25 That wouldn’t be right! Surely you wouldn’t do such a thing, to kill the godly with the wicked! Why, you would be treating godly and wicked exactly the same! Surely you wouldn’t do that! Should not the Judge of all the earth be fair?” (TLB)
So, you say Jesus said nothing about His disdain for sodomy? Look again. In fact it appears then that He basically told Abraham that He was going to do what needed to be done in Sodom and Gomorrah if the cries coming up to Him because of their wicked sins warranted a display of judgment! And upon His evaluation of the truth of the accusations - Jesus destroyed that wicked place with fire and brimstone. No question in my mind as to how He views homosexuality.
A Theologian you are not. So this stuff about "Jesus never revealed anything about how He feels about Sodom or sodomy or homosexuality is just plain ignorant." Read your Bible if you want to know how Jesus feels about it.
To answer the typical misstatement about Jesus not addressing homosexuality in His "Sermon on the Mount" is an easy thing to do. He didn't have to address the things that were blatantly obvious (like being a rapist, pedophile or bestiality) because tJesus was a Jew living in a Torah observant culture. In the first century Jewish culture there was no need for Him (ministering unto His own, the Jews) to expound on men doing detestable things with each other because His very culture of Torah observance adamantly opposed such abominations. In other words - it was a "given." Later, as the Church spread from just that Jewish culture to the gentiles, the apostle to the gentiles had to talk about such detestable things (read Romans) because it was no longer assumed that everyone they ministered to had a good basic anti-abominations upbringing.
So Paul speaking to the Gentiles in Romans 1:24-27 has to say things that a Jew teaching Jews wouldn't have to expound upon as Paul says to the Romans, "24 So God let them go ahead into every sort of sex sin, and do whatever they wanted to—yes, vile and sinful things with each other’s bodies. 25 Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they prayed to the things God made, but wouldn’t obey the blessed God who made these things.
26 That is why God let go of them and let them do all these evil things, so that even their women turned against God’s natural plan for them and indulged in sex sin with each other. 27 And the men, instead of having normal sex relationships with women, burned with lust for each other, men doing shameful things with other men and, as a result, getting paid within their own souls with the penalty they so richly deserved."
I hope you can understand this and quit the silly "Jesus didn't say anything about the abomination of homosexuality and sodomy" stuff.
Nice try but you are blown out of the water on this one. 
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THE LOVE OF GOD |
It is "queer". If you think we have a wierd fascination about homosexuality, does that mean you have a wierd fascination "for" it? The Bible speaks against it in:
Romans 1:24-32 (among other sins)
I Corin 6:9
Col 3:5
Jude 1:7
These are just NT.
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | Dean Steenburgh wrote: | Have I attended private events where those who live openly gay were invited? Yes!
Have I hosted such an event & asked someone who lives openly gay to entertain us? No!
Can we separate our convictions in private sessions vs spiritual sessions?
Would a muslim event (private or spiritual) allow such a thing?
Are we of less conviction or do we lower the expectations we have have so that one of such sin can dwell amongst us so freely?
Would you feel comfortable knowing that such a one is invited to sing a special song at your church this Sunday?
We send them the wrong message when we applaud their talents in an event where Christians & church leaders are present & nobody says a word for fear of being labeled obstinate.
My Grand father & Great Grand father (former CoG ministers) are rolling over in their graves at the idea of such a thing happening regardless of who is receiving the honor. |
First of all, this had nothing to do with church. It was honoring a president of a university. Second, if it would have been most any other "sin," it wouldn't be discussed. Again, you guys have a weird fascination about homosexuality. |
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Quiet Wyatt |
Jesus is indeed the one true God revealed in the Old Testament and made flesh in the New Testament.
In any case, it is not clear how having a gay alumni to sing at an event in honor of Dr. Conn is an endorsement of gay marriage or of gayness in general. |
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