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Eddie Robbins |
Hillary and Cruz wins the nomination. At the end of October, Hillary gets indicted and a judge rules that Cruz is ineligible because he was born in Canada.
Enjoy..... |
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UncleJD |
| that would be fun |
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UncleJD |
would the Senate decide on a President then? If so, then it would be Christie or Bush
edit - if it happened before the vote, then you'd probably have a huge write in campaign from the major parties in this case Sanders would probably win being the only other candidate in the party compared to so many in the GOP, if it was during the vote or before the electoral college sat down to actually vote; after general election but before the EC, then I think it comes down to the electoral college (what a mess, then of course people would sue and we'd have another SCOTUS election). If it happened after either were elected by the EC, it would probably fall to their running mate. |
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diakoneo |
Eddie you said "at the end of October"
That would mean, I think, an election between vice presidential candidates. In other words Sanders vs. Walker or Christie |
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Eddie Robbins |
I'm sure there are rules set for such things. I would imagine, both parties would name the new candidates. I don't think the vice presidential candidates would be the nominee. They will submit the best candidate they feel can win, probably whoever came in second. It would be interesting if it were Sanders and Trump. Neither party would want that. Chaos, for sure!!
This is why the question of Cruz's birth should be dealt with NOW! Trump is correct on this one. |
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UncleJD |
| diakoneo wrote: | Eddie you said "at the end of October"
That would mean, I think, an election between vice presidential candidates. In other words Sanders vs. Walker or Christie |
yes, you're probably right, since their names would actually be on the ballot. I wonder if the electoral college could then change their votes though with the pretext that their candidate was no longer viable. I don't believe the EC is under strict legal restriction on who they must vote for, especially if their candidate is disqualified. |
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UncleJD |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: |
This is why the question of Cruz's birth should be dealt with NOW! Trump is correct on this one. |
its been dealt with, by precedent you remember McCain? Then Illinois ruled in his favor just the other day stating correctly that if you don't have to go through some naturalization other than your birth to become a citizen (its an established fact that he is indeed a citizen), then that is the definition of "natural born citizen", end of story. I don't think there is ANY precedent to disqualify a candidate that did not have to go through a naturalization process. What if you were outside of the country when your child was born, do you think your child should have to go through any naturalization process outside of its natural birth? Then if not, your child is a natural born citizen (there is the naturalization act of 1789 that puts restrictions that the parent must have lived in the US for so many years out of the last so many years, etc... to make sure its not handed down from generation to generation without living in the US)
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UncleJD |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | I'm sure there are rules set for such things. I would imagine, both parties would name the new candidates. I don't think the vice presidential candidates would be the nominee. They will submit the best candidate they feel can win, probably whoever came in second. |
I think the balloting laws would take precedent and it would be too late to change the ballots at the end of Oct. It would be chaotic, probably even more fun than the several days we didn't have a winner during the Bush vs. Gore election. |
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diakoneo |
| UncleJD wrote: | | diakoneo wrote: | Eddie you said "at the end of October"
That would mean, I think, an election between vice presidential candidates. In other words Sanders vs. Walker or Christie |
yes, you're probably right, since their names would actually be on the ballot. I wonder if the electoral college could then change their votes though with the pretext that their candidate was no longer viable. I don't believe the EC is under strict legal restriction on who they must vote for, especially if their candidate is disqualified. |
You blew right past my VP choices  |
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Eddie Robbins |
| UncleJD wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: |
This is why the question of Cruz's birth should be dealt with NOW! Trump is correct on this one. |
its been dealt with, by precedent you remember McCain? Then Illinois ruled in his favor just the other day stating correctly that if you don't have to go through some naturalization other than your birth to become a citizen (its an established fact that he is indeed a citizen), then that is the definition of "natural born citizen", end of story. I don't think there is ANY precedent to disqualify a candidate that did not have to go through a naturalization process. What if you were outside of the country when your child was born, do you think your child should have to go through any naturalization process outside of its natural birth? Then if not, your child is a natural born citizen (there is the naturalization act of 1789 that puts restrictions that the parent must have lived in the US for so many years out of the last so many years, etc... to make sure its not handed down from generation to generation without living in the US) |
McCain was born to 2 American citizens on an American military base. Not the same. |
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UncleJD |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: |
This is why the question of Cruz's birth should be dealt with NOW! Trump is correct on this one. |
its been dealt with, by precedent you remember McCain? Then Illinois ruled in his favor just the other day stating correctly that if you don't have to go through some naturalization other than your birth to become a citizen (its an established fact that he is indeed a citizen), then that is the definition of "natural born citizen", end of story. I don't think there is ANY precedent to disqualify a candidate that did not have to go through a naturalization process. What if you were outside of the country when your child was born, do you think your child should have to go through any naturalization process outside of its natural birth? Then if not, your child is a natural born citizen (there is the naturalization act of 1789 that puts restrictions that the parent must have lived in the US for so many years out of the last so many years, etc... to make sure its not handed down from generation to generation without living in the US) |
McCain was born to 2 American citizens on an American military base. Not the same. |
close enough, but the point then and now is that there was NO naturalization process required other than birth. Hence the definition of "natural born citizen" |
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Cojak |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | Hillary and Cruz wins the nomination. At the end of October, Hillary gets indicted and a judge rules that Cruz is ineligible because he was born in Canada.
Enjoy..... |
oKAY, NOW I GET IT, THIS IS WHEN OBAMA DECLARES MARTIAL LAW AND SETS HIMSELF UP AS KING.  
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Cojak |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: |
This is why the question of Cruz's birth should be dealt with NOW! Trump is correct on this one. |
its been dealt with, by precedent you remember McCain? Then Illinois ruled in his favor just the other day stating correctly that if you don't have to go through some naturalization other than your birth to become a citizen (its an established fact that he is indeed a citizen), then that is the definition of "natural born citizen", end of story. I don't think there is ANY precedent to disqualify a candidate that did not have to go through a naturalization process. What if you were outside of the country when your child was born, do you think your child should have to go through any naturalization process outside of its natural birth? Then if not, your child is a natural born citizen (there is the naturalization act of 1789 that puts restrictions that the parent must have lived in the US for so many years out of the last so many years, etc... to make sure its not handed down from generation to generation without living in the US) |
McCain was born to 2 American citizens on an American military base. Not the same. |
You are right Eddie!  the comparison is definitely not the same. Probably one of 'em apple and oranges things. One family is out of the country on orders. The other out of the country on business and one not a citizen (me thinks).
However If Cruz is eligible, why the big stink about Obama's birth certificate, his mama's birth certificate is the one that counted. 
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Eddie Robbins |
| Rubio was born to 2 non-citizens, I think. But, was born here. |
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UncleJD |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | Rubio was born to 2 non-citizens, I think. But, was born here. |
Anchor baby |
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