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clevelandgrad |
I noticed at the GA that almost everyone elected to a position was called Doctor. Is this a new requirement to lead in the COG?
I kind of feel sorry for the poor ministers who only have a Masters, Bachelors, High school diploma or no degree at all.
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| clevelandgrad wrote: | I noticed at the GA that almost everyone elected to a position was called Doctor. Is this a new requirement to lead in the COG?
I kind of feel sorry for the poor ministers who only have a Masters, Bachelors, High school diploma or no degree at all. |
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Cojak |
| clevelandgrad wrote: | I noticed at the GA that almost everyone elected to a position was called Doctor. Is this a new requirement to lead in the COG?
I kind of feel sorry for the poor ministers who only have a Masters, Bachelors, High school diploma or no degree at all. |
Shucks, I hear you can be one yourownself for around $100. but SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH don't tell OTCP, he fusses about that! 
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| clevelandgrad wrote: | I noticed at the GA that almost everyone elected to a position was called Doctor. Is this a new requirement to lead in the COG?
I kind of feel sorry for the poor ministers who only have a Masters, Bachelors, High school diploma or no degree at all. |
A feller with a high school diploma should never feel inferior around a feller whose only docterate is honery and he is usin the title Dr. based on a certificate of appreciation, which is what a honery docterate is. |
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8/8/16 4:26 pm
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Ernie Long |
| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | clevelandgrad wrote: | I noticed at the GA that almost everyone elected to a position was called Doctor. Is this a new requirement to lead in the COG?
I kind of feel sorry for the poor ministers who only have a Masters, Bachelors, High school diploma or no degree at all. |
A feller with a high school diploma should never feel inferior around a feller whose only docterate is honery and he is usin the title Dr. based on a certificate of appreciation, which is what a honery docterate is. |
So, they should feel inferior to those who have a doctorate? I always heard at the foot of the cross everyone is equal.
I'm glad I read Actscelerate, cause without it, I would be plum dumb. |
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8/9/16 7:01 am
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Ernie Long wrote: | | Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | clevelandgrad wrote: | I noticed at the GA that almost everyone elected to a position was called Doctor. Is this a new requirement to lead in the COG?
I kind of feel sorry for the poor ministers who only have a Masters, Bachelors, High school diploma or no degree at all. |
A feller with a high school diploma should never feel inferior around a feller whose only docterate is honery and he is usin the title Dr. based on a certificate of appreciation, which is what a honery docterate is. |
So, they should feel inferior to those who have a doctorate? I always heard at the foot of the cross everyone is equal.
I'm glad I read Actscelerate, cause without it, I would be plum dumb. |
No Ernie, a feller with a high school diploma and Jesus in his life should never feel inferior to another preacher no matter how much education the latter has got. My point was, at high school diploma carries more weight than any honery docterate. |
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8/9/16 7:40 am
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georgiapath |
| clevelandgrad wrote: | I noticed at the GA that almost everyone elected to a position was called Doctor. Is this a new requirement to lead in the COG?
I kind of feel sorry for the poor ministers who only have a Masters, Bachelors, High school diploma or no degree at all. |
 Now don't get OTCP started. |
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8/9/16 7:43 am
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Nature Boy Florida |
Again, if the honorary doctorate is in recognition of bonafide real life experience - that excels above most others contributions in life - I have no problem with using Dr. title.
Of course, guys like Elvis, or Bill Gates, or Neil Armstrong or Walt Disney - they would have no need of using the term Dr. if they received honorary doctorates - as their accomplishments speak for themselves...a title would add nothing to their name - so its kind of a catch 22.
It would be ridiculous for me to call myself Dr. NBF - as it would add nothing to my legend. 
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clevelandgrad |
I am not sure our leadership is paying attention to the unintentional consequences of all these doctorates. The enemy already attacks the mind of many of our bi-vocational/pastors and then they go to GA and hear about all these doctorates. Seems to me, this has the potential of driving a bigger wedge between our leadership and our front line warriors.
I wonder how many of our front line warriors are simply unable to attend GA and they also pastor churches that are unable to send them? Do they truly have a voice in this great denomination?
After GA - I noticed how the newly elected quickly appoint formerly elected folks to positions. Is this intentional so the formerly elected don't have to go back to the front line?
Not complaining, I just have questions.
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Mat |
Perhaps the wrong metrics are being used as qualifications. Instead of advanced degrees as a achievement in themselves, the real measures should be conversions, baptisms (water), Holy Spirit Baptisms, members added to church, giving based on per member averages in tithes and missions. Other factors could be church building built and paid for, new staff position and new ministries added. How about if your children are believers and are attending a COG, as well as being married to the wife of your youth?
Those are some great metrics if you ask me.
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | | Again, if the honorary doctorate is in recognition of bonafide real life experience - that excels above most others contributions in life - I have no problem with using Dr. title. |
That's your opinion, NB, and you certainly entitled to it an all. But the purpose an protocol IS NOT to entitle the recipient to use the title "Dr" in his/her professional life. |
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8/9/16 9:17 am
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Nature Boy Florida |
I think you will win the day here OTCP.
If Tom Sterbens has thrown down with you - then you know the walls will come tumbling down too.
Question - someone being conferred apostleship (I see this on facebook now) - is that honorary or do we need an educational requirement or other metric for that, as well.
I have friends that now always use the term Apostle ______ when having their congregation refer to them.
You need to take that on next.
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | I think you will win the day here OTCP.
If Tom Sterbens has thrown down with you - then you know the walls will come tumbling down too.
Question - someone being conferred apostleship (I see this on facebook now) - is that honorary or do we need an educational requirement or other metric for that, as well.
I have friends that now always use the term Apostle ______ when having their congregation refer to them.
You need to take that on next. |
Believe me, NB, I done took at on too. These self-proclaimed apostles an prophets is shameful. |
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8/9/16 11:49 am
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Mat wrote: | Perhaps the wrong metrics are being used as qualifications. Instead of advanced degrees as a achievement in themselves, the real measures should be conversions, baptisms (water), Holy Spirit Baptisms, members added to church, giving based on per member averages in tithes and missions. Other factors could be church building built and paid for, new staff position and new ministries added. How about if your children are believers and are attending a COG, as well as being married to the wife of your youth?
Those are some great metrics if you ask me.
Mat |
Spiritual results or building a building have NOTHING to do with a doctoral degree/title. Those things rise/fall on their own merit and they are certainly worthy of note and commendation. The rubric is totally different for a doctoral degree. |
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