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Post ? Question, should the church of God change? Bishop Bugs Bunny
Should the church of God change how it is ran? By this I mean should it leave the centralized form of government that we have known? Newbie
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Post sheepdogandy
I post under, only one name.

I had nothing to do with this thread.

Carry on. Very Happy
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sheepdogandy wrote:
I post under, only one name.

I had nothing to do with this thread.

Carry on. Very Happy


I never suspected you SDA! Laughing

To answer the OP: No, that will never happen.
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Post Cojak
Da Sheik wrote:
sheepdogandy wrote:
I post under, only one name.

I had nothing to do with this thread.

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I never suspected you SDA! Laughing

To answer the OP: No, that will never happen.


As I just said about another comment, 'Always the gentleman DS' Smile
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Post Re: ? Question, should the church of God change? Cojak
Bishop Bugs Bunny wrote:
Should the church of God change how it is ran? By this I mean should it leave the centralized form of government that we have known?


I certainly think the COG should modify or change some of it's policies. I think, guidelines should be set up for states to have a binding vote on it's leaders.

There should be a sunshine rule of the fiscal church, top to bottom.

I also think a period of time should be set to transfer ownership of church property to the local churches.

There may be a lot of complications in the above, it might be impossibe, I do not know, someone smarter than I could surely phase them in.

BUT then all of those have been discussed in depth here, methinks.
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Let's say that it should. What does it take for it to happen according to the bylaws? What are the steps? Acts-celerater
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Post Rather than expecting the impossible (a change in the COG) brotherjames
although you ALL ARE men/women of Faith, you could just transfer your credentials to a more accommodating Fellowship that has a better polity. I don't know where you might find such a place although I once heard about a group that is based out of SW Missouri. Just sayin....

OR you could go independent like a certain poster and be accountable to no one for doctrine, finances or personal oversight (and don't tell me you're accountable to Jesus or your Board - we all are). I prefer the accountability of people of like precious faith and beliefs myself but to each their own.
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I prefer the accountability of people of like precious faith and beliefs myself but to each their own.


says the guy who doesn't let his congregation know exactly what his salary is.
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Post Have you ever noticed ... Mat
Have you ever noticed when you speak to an independent church pastor he will tell you about the oversight group his church is under, and when you speak to a denominational pastor he will often say, "well, I'm of them, but not with them?"

So the denominational churches are often busy hiding who they are behind different church names and buried links on their website, while independent churches often tout who their "Apostolic" oversight is.

We may need more of one and less of the other. Or is it less of one and more of the other?

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Post Re: Have you ever noticed ... Cojak
Mat wrote:
Have you ever noticed when you speak to an independent church pastor he will tell you about the oversight group his church is under, and when you speak to a denominational pastor he will often say, "well, I'm of them, but not with them?"

So the denominational churches are often busy hiding who they are behind different church names and buried links on their website, while independent churches often tout who their "Apostolic" oversight is.

We may need more of one and less of the other. Or is it less of one and more of the other?

Mat


Stop confusing me Mat, I having enough trouble trying to go to the correct public bathroom! Embarassed Smile Smile Smile Smile
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Post Change? roughridercog
Our government moves at an almost arthritic pace. Sometimes General Assembly is painful.

Hmmmmm, may we should have. G.O. Make executive orders?

(Just kidding) Laughing
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Post No one cares Bonnie brotherjames
certainly not my congregation. But, I am accountable to the General Council of the Assemblies of God for doctrine, practice and financial oversight and to the District of the same to which I belong as well and then additionally to my local Board and the congregation. That is not the case for independents was my point - you're just "trolling"again. Acts-celerater
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Post Re: No one cares Bonnie bonnie knox
But the independent who posts here (sheepdogandy) is very transparent with his congregation. He is more transparent with the church finances than you are.


brotherjames wrote:
certainly not my congregation. But, I am accountable to the General Council of the Assemblies of God for doctrine, practice and financial oversight and to the District of the same to which I belong as well and then additionally to my local Board and the congregation. That is not the case for independents was my point - you're just "trolling"again.
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I am accountable to our Church Council and Church Conference of Stewards.

I can be removed. Shocked

Our finances are posted for any and all to view.

Itemized and including every penny the Church gives me.

I just checked our web site to find it is out of whack at the moment.

When it is fixed it will contain our Church Constitution and By-laws for all of y'all to read and judge for yourself.

Since 1989 I have been a rabid Congregationalist.

I believe it's the Biblical way to go.

Before the accusations begin to fly, remember you all VOTE at General Assembly. Very Happy
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Post Re: Change? Carolyn Smith
roughridercog wrote:
Our government moves at an almost arthritic pace. Sometimes General Assembly is painful.



Be that as it may...it is the "correct" way to make change happen, is it not?
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Post COG Change Change Agent
Those that ride and use the system don't want to change the system. Why is it that we all know who the next GO will be? Don't you know who the next GO will be? Acts Enthusiast
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Post Re: COG Change Cojak
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... ... Don't you know who the next GO will be?


Huh uh! Confused
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Change Agent wrote:
Don't you know who the next GO will be?


OTCP!!!!!!
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Post Re: COG Change Cojak
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Change Agent wrote:
Don't you know who the next GO will be?


OTCP!!!!!!


I meant, I do not know who is gonna be the NEXT General Overseer, however I know who ain't. Seems they would like to a have a DR. before the name or DD after it.

And I ain't seen no DR OTCP yet... Just sayin'. Shocked
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I have pastored in the AG, and have many friends and relatives who are still in that organization. In my view, the CoG, though by no means perfect, and certainly capable of improvement, is nevertheless a far better organization than the good ol' AG in many ways, for pastors especially. If I wanted to be in more of a loose fellowship such as the AG, I would be. If I wanted to be in a congregationally governed local such as a Baptist church where the board has authority to hire and fire the pastor, I would be. It is not evident how such an arrangement is in any way superior or more scriptural than the CoG form of govt. [Insert Acts Pun Here]
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