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Nature Boy Florida |
I put a lot of stock in a man that keeps his word.
Cruz did not.
I am sorry I was duped into voting for him in the Florida primary.
It won't happen again.
I wish I had a picture of all of those guys raising their hands pledging support for the Rep. nominee.
Turns out Trump was one of very few honest men and women up there.
Christie, Rubio, Carson were honest. Anybody else?
The party of "Honest" Abe.
Who knew.
Trump was also correct labeling him Lyin' Ted.
Maybe this Trump guy is honest and right on more than we give him credit for.
He sure knew Ted Cruz better than I did.
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| Re: Ted Cruz breaks pledge |
Resident Skeptic |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | I put a lot of stock in a man that keeps his word.
Cruz did not.
I am sorry I was duped into voting for him in the Florida primary.
It won't happen again.
I wish I had a picture of all of those guys raising their hands pledging support for the Rep. nominee.
Turns out Trump was one of very few honest men and women up there.
Christie, Rubio, Carson were honest. Anybody else?
The party of "Honest" Abe.
Who knew.
Trump was also correct labeling him Lyin' Ted.
Maybe this Trump guy is honest and right on more than we give him credit for.
He sure knew Ted Cruz better than I did. |
As I watched Cruz make a total Judas of himself last night, I couldn't help but remember the 1976 convention where Reagan, having narrowly been defeated by Gerald Ford for the nomination, gave a rousing speech to the delegates and then stood side-by-side with Ford on the stage. Reagan demonstrated class. Cruz demonstrated ego.
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7/21/16 8:18 am
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UncleJD |
Thank God for Ted Cruz. If he had endorsed Trump I would no longer believe in his character as someone who puts principle over establishment politics. This is the Ted Cruz that stood up to the lying Republican leadership in the Senate and would not go along to get along then, why should he now?
I'll take Cruz and Texas, you guys can have Hillary or Trump. |
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7/21/16 8:30 am
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georgiapath |
| Cruz showed his true colors, and he still doesn't understand why nobody likes him or wants him. |
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7/21/16 8:51 am
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UncleJD |
| He didn't say anything negative about Trump. After the things Trump said about Cruz's wife and father (and so many other reasons), you're silly if you think he should actually endorse the man. If he had endorsed him, I would have completely given up on politics as a total sham in which nobody means a word they say. |
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Nature Boy Florida |
| UncleJD wrote: | | He didn't say anything negative about Trump. After the things Trump said about Cruz's wife and father (and so many other reasons), you're silly if you think he should actually endorse the man. If he had endorsed him, I would have completely given up on politics as a total sham in which nobody means a word they say. |
He shouldn't say something he didn't mean.
He should have been a man and kept his hand down last year - like Trump did - if he didn't mean it.
His career is toast.
Easy to see why not one other Senate colleague backed him.
Even his "friend" Sessions went with Trump.
I believed in Ted until last night. I voted for him.
I was wrong.
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MayB2Day |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | He didn't say anything negative about Trump. After the things Trump said about Cruz's wife and father (and so many other reasons), you're silly if you think he should actually endorse the man. If he had endorsed him, I would have completely given up on politics as a total sham in which nobody means a word they say. |
He shouldn't say something he didn't mean.
He should have been a man and kept his hand down last year - like Trump did - if he didn't mean it.
His career is toast.
Easy to see why not one other Senate colleague backed him.
Even his "friend" Sessions went with Trump.
I believed in Ted until last night. I voted for him.
I was wrong. |
I have no problem with Cruz standing by his principles.
I thought it was interesting last night to watch the media have a coniption over Cruz's speech and then every member of the Luntz focus group said they had no problem with Cruz because they respected a man who wouldn't sell out for the sake of politics. What Cruz did last night mattered more to the media than it did to the people (with some exceptions).
I doubt any of you would endorse a man who called your wife ugly and agreed with the nonsense that your father was involved in the assissination of of a US President. Blood is thicker than water and your family honor is more important than raising your hand months earlier.
And on a side note, the hand-lifting-pledge was more about not running as a 3rd party candidate than it was about endorsing anyone. Go back and watch the clip. The focus is on pledging not to run as a 3rd party candidate. Also when you watch the clip you will see that Trump was the only one to raise to his hand because the question was posed in the negative. Cruz never raised his hand as you said he shouldn't have.
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7/21/16 9:26 am
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UncleJD |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | He didn't say anything negative about Trump. After the things Trump said about Cruz's wife and father (and so many other reasons), you're silly if you think he should actually endorse the man. If he had endorsed him, I would have completely given up on politics as a total sham in which nobody means a word they say. |
He shouldn't say something he didn't mean.
He should have been a man and kept his hand down last year - like Trump did - if he didn't mean it.
His career is toast.
Easy to see why not one other Senate colleague backed him.
Even his "friend" Sessions went with Trump.
I believed in Ted until last night. I voted for him.
I was wrong. |
I disagree, but let someone say some "junk" (its a Christian board), about my wife and dad and I'll do more than Ted Cruz did last night. and Mayb2day is right, the only thing people were talking about during that "pledge" thing was whether or not Trump would keep it and not run third-party. |
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7/21/16 9:30 am
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Patrick Harris |
Actually just because Cruz didn't come out and gush all over Trump people think he broke the pledge.
Apparently the GOP doesn't like it when people vote their conscience, because that's exactly what he said.
The GOP is a dead party after this year....... |
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7/21/16 9:35 am
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Could It Be True |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: |
I wish I had a picture of all of those guys raising their hands pledging support for the Rep. nominee.
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That picture doesn't exist because that's not the way the question was framed.
The candidates were asked to raise their hand if they wouldn't pledge to support the eventual nominee and if they wouldn't pledge to not run as an independent. Trump was the only one to raise his hand. So the picture of which you speak does not exist.
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7/21/16 9:37 am
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | I believed in Ted until last night. I voted for him.
I was wrong. |
I'm very proud of ya, NB. You admitted you could be wrong in a thing.
Now, ifn you will just eccept the fact than them honery things is nothing more than a "certificate of appreciation" you headin straight for integrity my son. |
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7/21/16 11:34 am
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Nature Boy Florida |
Sorry guys.
This says you are wrong.
Changing the definition of what "is" is - is Clintonian.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/288569-santorum-cruz-broke-his-promise-to-support-gop-nominee
Here is the pledge the Republican party put out asking each candidate to sign:
| Quote: | | "I (name) affirm that if I do not win the 2016 Republican nomination for president of the United States I will endorse the 2016 Republican presidential nominee regardless of who it is. I further pledge that I will not seek to run as an independent or write-in candidate nor will I seek or accept the nomination for president of any other party." |
Here is Cruz confirming he signed the pledge:
| Quote: | On March 12, three days before the Florida primary, Cruz said he would support the nominee although he had criticized Trump saying that he "affirmatively encourages violence."
"I committed at the outset, I will support the Republican nominee, whoever it is." Cruz told reporters at a suburban St. Louis high school
A day later, he made a similar comment to MSNBC’s Chuck Todd:
Todd: "You've said some tough things on Trump. Why are you comfortable supporting him as the nominee if he ends up the nominee."
Cruz: "Well, listen, I pledged at the outset I will support the Republican nominee, whoever it is ... when I give my word for something, I follow through and do what I said."
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I guess giving his word doesn't mean anything.
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7/21/16 1:20 pm
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Patrick Harris |
Interview with Anderson Cooper after signing the pledge.
COOPER: Do you continue to pledge whoever the Republican nominee is?
TRUMP: No. I don't anymore.
COOPER: You don't?
TRUMP: No, we'll see who it is.
Apparently Trump's word ain't worth PLEASE SELECT ANOTHER WORD either |
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UncleJD |
| Patrick Harris wrote: | Interview with Anderson Cooper after signing the pledge.
COOPER: Do you continue to pledge whoever the Republican nominee is?
TRUMP: No. I don't anymore.
COOPER: You don't?
TRUMP: No, we'll see who it is.
Apparently Trump's word ain't worth PLEASE SELECT ANOTHER WORD either |
yep. And sorry, if I tell someone I'll support them, then they call my wife a hag and my dad an assassin, then nope.
Trump at least is smart enough not to rile things up too badly on this, he's shrugged it off. Its the Trumpers that are riding this. They should be happy that Cruz didn't go off like he could have. |
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c6thplayer1 |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | He didn't say anything negative about Trump. After the things Trump said about Cruz's wife and father (and so many other reasons), you're silly if you think he should actually endorse the man. If he had endorsed him, I would have completely given up on politics as a total sham in which nobody means a word they say. |
He shouldn't say something he didn't mean.
He should have been a man and kept his hand down last year - like Trump did - if he didn't mean it.
His career is toast.
Easy to see why not one other Senate colleague backed him.
Even his "friend" Sessions went with Trump.
I believed in Ted until last night. I voted for him.
I was wrong. |
NB Was Wrong ??? Well God bless you brother.  |
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Nature Boy Florida |
| Patrick Harris wrote: | Interview with Anderson Cooper after signing the pledge.
COOPER: Do you continue to pledge whoever the Republican nominee is?
TRUMP: No. I don't anymore.
COOPER: You don't?
TRUMP: No, we'll see who it is.
Apparently Trump's word ain't worth PLEASE SELECT ANOTHER WORD either |
I guess we will never know.
As it stands now: Trump didn't break his pledge - but Cruz did.
Lyin Ted.
Trump was so right.
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UncleJD |
| #GARYJOHNSON2016 |
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Patrick Harris |
| UncleJD wrote: | | #GARYJOHNSON2016 |
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UncleJD |
| Patrick Harris wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | #GARYJOHNSON2016 |
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Its a draw between that and #REBOOT2016 |
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Quiet Wyatt |
Any promise made to support a candidate was implicitly predicated on the candidate actually being true to GOP values and a decent, respectable human being. There are virtually no absolutely unconditional promises in this world, not even from God himself.
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