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 This is an important issue to me.... |
spartanfan |
As a pastor I stay out of the political arena in regard to advocating one person or party over another. I just follow what I think is Jesus' example by preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom and his instructions to go into all the world preaching and making disciples. I need to speak Christ into the lives of others and I just think keeping "the main thing the main thing" is the best way to have access to the hearts of as many as possible. But while I am doing that - I find professors at the University I send our church kids to, on Facebook promoting the one presidential candidate that is more like Lucifer than any other I've ever seen (in my personal opinion).
So, the pastor doesn't weigh in with his opinion but the professor is blatantly pro-Lucifer and influencing our children.
I have a problem with that - and I will be more hesitant to recommend our kids get under that kind of influence in the future, maybe. |
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UncleJD |
| spartanfan wrote: | As a pastor I stay out of the political arena in regard to advocating one person or party over another. I just follow what I think is Jesus' example by preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom and his instructions to go into all the world preaching and making disciples. I need to speak Christ into the lives of others and I just think keeping "the main thing the main thing" is the best way to have access to the hearts of as many as possible. But while I am doing that - I find professors at the University I send our church kids to on Facebook promoting the one presidential candidate that is more like Lucifer than any other I've ever seen (in my personal opinion).
So, the pastor doesn't weigh in with his opinion but the professor is blatantly pro-Lucifer and influencing our children.
I have a problem with that - and I will be more hesitant to recommend our kids get under that kind of influence in the future, maybe. |
The pastor was key to the Revolution, the church house and the pub were the places our political views came from. It was LBJ that influenced our generation of pastors to not speak politically and for good reason (on his part).
I posted about this same topic. |
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7/27/16 9:26 am
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Cojak |
Every political season it is the same. I have only attended one church a few years ago (Baptist) where the pastor took the entire 'worship' time promoting one candidate.
Unlike many, I know Christians who are in both major political parties. They have their reasons. But I commented to my wife, reckon the opposition party members will be back next Sunday?
As a kid my dad only pastored one 'political' church, VAldese NC. Honestly three months before an election they all wore their 'Clean House with Ike and Dick' or 'Adlai Stevenson is The Man' Buttons every Sunday. They sat on opposite sides of the church, they were happy to discuss their politics, I cannot remember a time they weren't 'STILL FAMILY & FRIENDS'.
Pastors have both parties in their church, the pastor is shepherd of all, even if you consider some wayward sheep.
I remember Dad's introduction of himself. He said, "YOu don't have to ask me my political persuasion, I am what you are, Christian.
Some tight ropes are hard to walk.... 
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| I did once have an ex school of theology professor unfriend me on Facebook for what I said about Obama. |
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| DrDuck wrote: | | I did once have an ex school of theology professor unfriend me on Facebook for what I said about Obama. |
Hey DD, I would have de-friended you too if you bragged on the dude! Just sayin'  
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| Cojak wrote: | | DrDuck wrote: | | I did once have an ex school of theology professor unfriend me on Facebook for what I said about Obama. |
Hey DD, I would have de-friended you too if you bragged on the dude! Just sayin' |
As one former State Overseer once said about me from my own pulpit, "I appreciate (he injected, your pastor's) sense of humor." |
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7/28/16 7:45 am
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Cojak |
| DrDuck wrote: |
As one former State Overseer once said about me from my own pulpit, "I appreciate (he injected, your pastor's) sense of humor." |
Sometimes it is needed to keep things in focus. 
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7/28/16 10:21 am
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Change Agent |
Don't think we need to post political feelings on FB or on Acts-celerate if we post under our real name. If you pastors don't want to pastor a Democrat just put that up on the church sign. "No Democrats need apply".
If any show up after that they deserve punishment.  |
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Nature Boy Florida |
| spartanfan wrote: | As a pastor I stay out of the political arena in regard to advocating one person or party over another. I just follow what I think is Jesus' example by preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom and his instructions to go into all the world preaching and making disciples. I need to speak Christ into the lives of others and I just think keeping "the main thing the main thing" is the best way to have access to the hearts of as many as possible. But while I am doing that - I find professors at the University I send our church kids to on Facebook promoting the one presidential candidate that is more like Lucifer than any other I've ever seen (in my personal opinion).
So, the pastor doesn't weigh in with his opinion but the professor is blatantly pro-Lucifer and influencing our children.
I have a problem with that - and I will be more hesitant to recommend our kids get under that kind of influence in the future, maybe. |
Yeah, talk your kids out of Lee and into going to LSU. They won't run into any lib ideas there.
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7/28/16 11:06 am
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UncleJD |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: |
Yeah, talk your kids out of Lee and into going to LSU. They won't run into any lib ideas there. |
So the answer is much like the election then, keep accepting the least liberal of the liberal choices. I think that's called erosion. (though some would call it progression)
I'm sure Lee is still an excellent school, but its the entire American college system that's broken. |
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7/28/16 12:46 pm
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Nature Boy Florida |
It was just a response to Sparty saying he would talk his kids out of going to Lee.
I think that is a bad idea.
If he has a problem, contact the President. He might find out the rest of the story.
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7/28/16 2:10 pm
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spartanfan |
Come on NBF - we're pals (in my mind) - so I would think you would be a little more exact in quoting me. You said: "It was just a response to Sparty saying he would talk his kids out of going to Lee. I think that is a bad idea.
If he has a problem, contact the President. He might find out the rest of the story.:"
I believe my words included "......more hesitant" and "maybe." I realize I am just over emotional about this and I was deliberately not definitive concerning the stated temptation. Lee is our "family school" as well as our "church's school"and one of my alma maters and I have served on their alumni board several times and in numerous states. I am generally supportive of Lee.
My "beef" is more with the one professor than the school. And of course I know that Lee is way more superior spiritually than all state sponsored schools - I know that because in the responses to the post, some people were making remarks about "Lee being ancient in their LGBT thinking" - which made me proud of Lee for having that reputation with the queers. Lee is too conservative (I wonder what they want) for their liking.
So there still is a high level of holiness there in general! I get that. But I prefer Vikings to Flames That's just my preference.
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7/28/16 2:30 pm
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Quiet Wyatt |
While I personally am quite conservative politically, I am unaware of anything in our Declaration of Faith or Doctrinal Commitments that would exclude a member whose politics happen to be liberal. I'm not sure how one could exclude a professor from Lee for having liberal political ideas, either.
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7/28/16 2:35 pm
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UncleJD |
| spartanfan wrote: | that's why I said "......more hesitant" and "maybe." I realize I am just over emotional about this and I was deliberately not definitive concerning the stated temptation. Lee is our "family school" as well as our "church's school"and one of my alma maters and I have served on their alumni board several times and in numerous states.
My "beef" is more with the one professor than the school. And of course I know that Lee is way more superior spiritually than all state sponsored schools - I know that because in the responses to the post some people were making remarks about "Lee being ancient in their LGBT thinking" - which made me proud of Lee for having that reputation with the queers. So there still is a high level of holiness there in general! I get that. |
Did you notice that those LGBT champions were friends of said prof and were not unfriended like some of those that were challenging from the conservative side?
I think the system is broken. And Lee, though its still great, has some faculty and staff that are immersed in that system. I don't think for a moment that this is about "the first woman president" any more than those that were equally excited for Obama were about the "first black president", seeing as they were equally against conservative blacks like Herman Cain and women like Sarah Palin.
That said I still like Lee, but asking questions is not blasphemy folks. If so, then when do we start asking questions? When its already become SMU, Harvard or Princeton? |
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7/28/16 2:36 pm
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Quiet Wyatt |
| I would think (or at least hope) that a Lee professor or instructor would be fired if he or she openly advocated for things like gay marriage or abortion. |
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Nature Boy Florida |
| spartanfan wrote: | | But I prefer Vikings to Flames That's just my preference. |
We all do.
Seriously though, contact the President.
It may not do any outward good - but your opinion - as a long time supporter and alumni - does make a difference.
If the professors reject that portion of the Dem platform that is so offensive to all of us - then I don't see a problem.
I don't agree with all of the Rep. platform (or candidate).
If, however, they believe in abortion on demand - then I also have a problem - as that should be incompatible with Christian training.
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