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Post Trump plummeting UncleJD
Looks like Hillary got her bounce. I guess the socialists are united in their fear of work.

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton CBS News Clinton 47, Trump 41 Clinton +6
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton CNN/ORC Clinton 52, Trump 43 Clinton +9
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Post diakoneo
Well I was off by 1%. I thought he would be down by 5%.

Wonderboy just can't keep his pie-chute closed, that is his problem.
Most conservative analysts agree on that. What they don't seem to understand is the nature of his problem. I have a very close relative with this mental disorder. Narcissism. They just can't keep from opening their mouth and lying or sticking their foot in.

This whole election is sad. Sad for our country. Christians need to pray!
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Post Cojak
Again his mouth has done him in. When the father who had lost his son said trump had not sacrificed, instead of asking what Hillary had sacrificed, he had to low rate the man and his wife. I don't get it.

On the Crimea and Putin, I have no problem, except he seemed too ignorant. I think any president should try to talk to Putin instead of threaten. Joining with Russia we could eliminate ISIS and then settle the biggie about Syria and the refugees.

I also think we have stuck our nose into too many countries businesses as it is. Embarassed

Imma get him elected then suggest impeachment! Shocked That way it is still better than Hillary!
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Post Cojak
Ah he will bounce back. There are a lot of folk who just do not want 'politics' as usual. Some folk are ready to accept anything. I am amazed that Jeb and the boys don't realize that they are no longer 'THE PARTY' folks are just frustrated.

The election will be decided for Trump by what he says a day or two before the election. Americans have a short attention span. Wink
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Post Resident Skeptic
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Ah he will bounce back. There are a lot of folk who just do not want 'politics' as usual. Some folk are ready to accept anything. I am amazed that Jeb and the boys don't realize that they are no longer 'THE PARTY' folks are just frustrated.

The election will be decided for Trump by what he says a day or two before the election. Americans have a short attention span. Wink



This Wikileaks thing is still to get uglier for Hillary as well.
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Post UncleJD
And this morning

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton NBC News/SM Clinton 50, Trump 42 Clinton +8
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Economist/YouGov Clinton 41, Trump 36, Johnson 8, Stein 4 Clinton +5
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Post Cojak
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This Wikileaks thing is still to get uglier for Hillary as well.


I am really thinking wikileaks talk is probably blown out of proportion to their actual effects on the election, although I would be happy if more truths are brought out.

I can still hope Hillary will shoot herself in the foot, but as I have said, the girl is fairly bulletproof! Hasn't that been proven? Sad Wink
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And this morning

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton NBC News/SM Clinton 50, Trump 42 Clinton +8
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Economist/YouGov Clinton 41, Trump 36, Johnson 8, Stein 4 Clinton +5


I won't be concerned until September. This back and forth has been typical.
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Post Nature Boy Florida
Wikileaks timing on emails regarding DNC was perfectly timed.
I got a feeling there is plenty more - and if timed correctly - Trump would win easily...iIf he would say nothing between now and November.

Also - Trump puts people away at debates.

Can't wait for Hillary to get a taste of what Bush got. Then again - they will probably be set up to play to her strengths.
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Post Quiet Wyatt
I'm hoping (perhaps against hope, I know), that a decent third party candidate could prevent either major candidate from winning the electoral college, thus sending the decision to Congress, where hopefully some modicum of sanity might perhaps save the day. [Insert Acts Pun Here]
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Post UncleJD
Quiet Wyatt wrote:
I'm hoping (perhaps against hope, I know), that a decent third party candidate could prevent either major candidate from winning the electoral college, thus sending the decision to Congress, where hopefully some modicum of sanity might perhaps save the day.


As much as I love the electoral college and its preservation of the states' and rural areas' say in our elections. One thing it does NOT do well is allow for a third party. Only Nebraska and Maine split their votes proportionately, the rest are winner take all.
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Post Quiet Wyatt
Here is a fascinating hypothetical scenario I read about this morning: http://theresurgent.com/does-the-electoral-college-give-john-kasich-the-opportunity-to-save-the-country-from-trump-and-hillary/

While I have not supported Kasich, and would not be crazy about him as POTUS, I would prefer him over Trump or Hillary any day.
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Post Redneck
If Hillary rigged the Democratic run off to insure that she wins the party.......what makes you think that she won't do the same to get into the White House.

The main stream media slobbers all over the Democrats and will say or do anything to make sure that Trump is the bad guy and that Hitlary is elected.

I will vote, but have zero faith in the election process and feel that the choice has been made. I'll do my part but will be shocked if Trump is elected.
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I find the whole "rigged" claim ridiculous, its always the claim of those that lost who can't fathom that their country has moved to the left. There is too much at stake for it not to be proven and prosecuted. Yes there are irregularities in each election and I remember the dems shouting about it too (especially 2000). Its the same claim from both of the last two elections and we've had a Republican congress since then so there was surely the muscle to have uncovered it all by now. Therefore you have to take the next step and say that they are all in it together which is just over the loony line if you ask me. (but if true, then all the more reason to ditch both parties). Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere
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Post Resident Skeptic
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I find the whole "rigged" claim ridiculous, its always the claim of those that lost who can't fathom that their country has moved to the left. There is too much at stake for it not to be proven and prosecuted. Yes there are irregularities in each election and I remember the dems shouting about it too (especially 2000). Its the same claim from both of the last two elections and we've had a Republican congress since then so there was surely the muscle to have uncovered it all by now. Therefore you have to take the next step and say that they are all in it together which is just over the loony line if you ask me. (but if true, then all the more reason to ditch both parties).


You are one of the ones that has announced Trump's demise countless times. Maybe you think sooner or later it will happen and then you can claim to be a prophet. And if it is a matter of the country having moved to the left as you say, then it won't matter who the GOP candidate is. They will lose.
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You are one of the ones that has announced Trump's demise countless times. Maybe you think sooner or later it will happen and then you can claim to be a prophet. And if it is a matter of the country having moved to the left as you say, then it won't matter who the GOP candidate is. They will lose.


No prophecy necessary. The NWO wills it right?

I agree that nationally, the conservative movement is not going to win another election (it can't even win one in the GOP primary), until someone can make a good case for it again (like a Reagan).
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Post c6thplayer1
Rigged ? Heres what rigged is;

Southern most city in illinois , Cario , Had a population of around 3000 with 1600 registered voters. A few elections ago the number of votes cast in Cario was over 18,000.

I called the Illinois board of elections and their response was ; What do you want me to do about it? We know there are inconsistencies but we do not have the resources to address the issue have a good day." and they hung up.

Of course one must realize that Illinois has been rated the most corrupt state in the union.
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Rigged ? Heres what rigged is;

Southern most city in illinois , Cario , Had a population of around 3000 with 1600 registered voters. A few elections ago the number of votes cast in Cario was over 18,000.

I called the Illinois board of elections and their response was ; What do you want me to do about it? We know there are inconsistencies but we do not have the resources to address the issue have a good day." and they hung up.

Of course one must realize that Illinois has been rated the most corrupt state in the union.


I definitely believe there is much voter fraud, mostly in states where the vote would go 'their' way (who ever is fixing it), BUT IMO overall there is not enough evidence to say a national election can be rigged.

It can be played better politically, but rigged. I cannot see it.

That said I do hope Hillary shoots herself in the foot with armor piercing stuff! Shocked
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One thing that is obvious. the elite are in panic mode. Even with Hillary's phony bounce, they know she is in trouble. If they really were not worried about Trump Obama would not be out there demanding the GOP disavow him.
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Post Its getting worse UncleJD
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 49, Trump 39 Clinton +10
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson FOX News Clinton 44, Trump 35, Johnson 12 Clinton +9

Notice this is FOX News. The ones who blast Hillary and Obama on an hourly basis and make their living off of Trump right now. But somehow RS will see it as "phony bounce". This is not a bounce, its an explosion, 10 points! She was down by 5 10 days ago.

And of course polls mean nothing unless they are showing Trump in the lead, then they God's gift.
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