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Post OTCP; Oh NO YOU DON'T! doyle
In another post, OTCP has shared that he is leaving the board because he feels some want him to go.

Nobody has told me they left because of OTCP. Some felt the constant "harping" on the types of degrees people were claiming, was a bit much, but nobody has mentioned to me that they were leaving because of OTCP. In fact, I believe many probably stayed because of OTCP.

A number of posters have dropped out because of the hyper-grace guys but none that I know of because of OTCP.

When we began Actscelerate, it was prior to Twitter, Facebook, Smart Phones and all other kinds of communication now available to individuals. It was the first time in the more than 100 years of COG history that it's members and ministers had a place where they could share their opinions without fear of recrimination. Today, there are many such places for communications, but ACTS may still be one of the few places where our members and ministers can share their opinions while using a pen name.

OTCP: Oh NO YOU DON'T bring to a close one of the most prolific and interesting legacy of posts, by saying it is because some want you to leave.

If you feel it is time to go, we respect that, but go with your head high and with the understanding, that NOBODY ELSE has had a more prolific record of interesting and often very humorous posts, than OTCP.

If this was the New York Times Best Seller List, OTCP would be at the very top. If it was the Top Forty Hit List of music, OTCP would have been Number One. In fact, in my opinion, OTCP is still Number One. I wish you wouldn't go, but if you must, THANK YOU for your long legacy of inspiring us with your insight and amazing wit. It has been an honor and a blessing to have you sharing with us all these years. I wish you the very best and if you change your mind, the door to our heart is always open to you.

In some ways, you may find that having a place like this to share your heart and insight, is as important to you as to us. It is important to us! I believe your insight has been and can continue to be a blessing to your Church, the Church of God. In our circles, your commentary is as beneficial as Benjamin Franklin's "Poor Richard's Almanac" was prior to and during the Revolutionary War.

The COG is not at war with anyone but the Devil, but that war is actually even more important than our Revolutionary War. In that war, a nation was at stake. In the war against the Devil, all of humanity is at stake.

During the Revolutionary War, they won a nation. In our day, it seems our nation is slipping away. Voices like yours, can make a difference to us in such times. However, if you feel your silence is more important than your powerful voice of wisdom and wit, we wish you many heartfelt blessings. Love ya Bro.

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Post A Rejoinder Offered in Humble Gratitude Old Time Country Preacher
Dear Doyle,

After reading through your post in my “Fond Farewell” thread, as well as the expanded version offered in this thread--the ole timer is deeply humbled, appreciative, encouraged an exhilarated by the overwhelming comments. As an avid student of Robert’s Rules of Order, please let me respond seriatim within the body of your thread.


In another post, OTCP has shared that he is leaving the board because he feels some want him to go. After reading comments suggesting that Actscelerate may be in decline, I felt that some of the comments might possibly be directed at OTCP, and if true, in no way did I want to be either a cause or partial cause of the implied decline. This was my sole purpose in the “Fond Farewell” thread. It was not a rally for support, nor was it an attempt to garner sympathy. Have been connected with Actscelerate from its inception, I did not want to contribute in any way to the implied decline of usage and/or posters leaving the board.

Nobody has told me they left because of OTCP. Thank you for the clarification, Doyle. I stand corrected in my thoughts that some of the comments were perhaps directed toward me.

Some felt the constant "harping" on the types of degrees people were claiming, was a bit much, but nobody has mentioned to me that they were leaving because of OTCP. Indeed, there are a few issues I find deeply disturbing. Equally disturbing is the fact that so many (I speak here—in the main—of credentialed COG ministers, but also those within the broader family of faith) fail to grasp the negative, even destructive, ramifications of this one issue in particular. I say this not from a position of condescension, as though I know it all and others know little. Rather, I truly believe those who fail to recognize the negative ramifications of less than credible credentials, either do not understand the nature of academics, or, because they know persons who hold such credentials (perhaps even holding such themselves), turn a blind eye to the facts. So, while it may sound like “harping” to some, I view it more in terms of a caveat. This of course negates the many times I, along with other posters, joke/tease about the issue.

In fact, I believe many probably stayed because of OTCP. This is a very humbling statement, Doyle, and if true, I would accept it with an unpretentious spirit/attitude.

A number of posters have dropped out because of the hyper-grace guys but none that I know of because of OTCP. I hope this to be the case.

When we began Actscelerate, it was prior to Twitter, Facebook, Smart Phones and all other kinds of communication now available to individuals. It was the first time in the more than 100 years of COG history that it's members and ministers had a place where they could share their opinions without fear of recrimination. Today, there are many such places for communications, but ACTS may still be one of the few places where our members and ministers can share their opinions while using a pen name. Indeed, before Twitter, Facebook, Smart Phones, etc., gained popularity, I was enjoying Actscelerate.

OTCP: Oh NO YOU DON'T bring to a close one of the most prolific and interesting legacy of posts, by saying it is because some want you to leave. As I stated earlier, I stand corrected in what I thought were posts directed at OTCP. Thank you for the clarification.

If you feel it is time to go, we respect that, but go with your head high and with the understanding, that NOBODY ELSE has had a more prolific record of interesting and often very humorous posts, than OTCP. You founded, implemented and own Actscelerate, Doyle. I can only take your word for what is stated here, and receive it with humble gratitude.

If this was the New York Times Best Seller List, OTCP would be at the very top. If it was the Top Forty Hit List of music, OTCP would have been Number One. In fact, in my opinion, OTCP is still Number One. I wish you wouldn't go, but if you must, THANK YOU for your long legacy of inspiring us with your insight and amazing wit. It has been an honor and a blessing to have you sharing with us all these years. I wish you the very best and if you change your mind, the door to our heart is always open to you. I am overwhelmed by these comments, Doyle, even to the point of tears.

In some ways, you may find that having a place like this to share your heart and insight, is as important to you as to us. It is important to us! I believe your insight has been and can continue to be a blessing to your Church, the Church of God. In our circles, your commentary is as beneficial as Benjamin Franklin's "Poor Richard's Almanac" was prior to and during the Revolutionary War. Again, overwhelmed!

The COG is not at war with anyone but the Devil, but that war is actually even more important than our Revolutionary War. In that war, a nation was at stake. In the war against the Devil, all of humanity is at stake. During the Revolutionary War, they won a nation. In our day, it seems our nation is slipping away. Voices like yours, can make a difference to us in such times. However, if you feel your silence is more important than your powerful voice of wisdom and wit, we wish you many heartfelt blessings. Love ya Bro. I shall endeavor to make that difference.

Doyle

Finally, Doyle:

1) With the above responses respectfully/modestly stated; and

2) Having considered your clarification that comments regarding the implied decline/demise of Actscelerate were in no way suggesting OTCP as the cause; and

3) Given the support of fellow Acts posters in my “Fond Farewell” thread; and

4) Given the private messages I received, requesting my continued participation on Actscelerate; and

5) Given my desire to continue to participate with colleagues/friends/peers of some 15 years now…

With gratitude and humility, OTCP submits to the consensus of posts encouraging his continued participation on Actscelerate.
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Post Re: A Rejoinder Offered in Humble Gratitude Eduardo Nieves
With gratitude and humility, OTCP submits to the consensus of posts encouraging his continued participation on Actscelerate.[/color][/b][/quote]

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Post Nature Boy Florida
OTCP is staying?

I thought all ACTS sales were final?
Can you take back a Christmas present like that the day after Christmas?
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Post Old Time Country Preacher
Nature Boy Florida wrote:
Can you take back a Christmas present like that the day after Christmas?


Yep, I kept the receipt just in case........... Cool
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Post Does that mean ALL of his other names are back too brotherjames
Just kiddin' . I know he has just one. Wink
but if he's coming back, i think I will quit and all my names are going with me. See ya.
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Post Re: Does that mean ALL of his other names are back too Old Time Country Preacher
brotherjames wrote:
Just kiddin' . I know he has just one. Wink
but if he's coming back, i think I will quit and all my names are going with me. See ya.


Don't do it, BJ.
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Post My "Read" on OTCP Preacher777
I never met OTCP and don't know his identity. However, from reading his posts behind the country fun I see a Christian man who understands ethics in ministry, sound doctrine and theology. Perhaps the reason he is so passionate about false doctorates is that OTCP understands true Biblical humility is void of self promotion, let alone with deceptive titles.

Jesus had such a heart for people that when He saw them being deceived he overthrew the money changers tables. Jesus and Paul called out false teachers so the innocent would not be be deceived. It is refreshing for me to see somebody like OTCP who has the backbone and intensity for truth calling out WOF extremists who distort sound doctrine and theology that is focused on an eternal perspective. I believe us pastors need to do what it takes to share the truth and guard sound doctrine rather than being politically correct in the church world.
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Post Re: My "Read" on OTCP Old Time Country Preacher
Preacher777 wrote:
I never met OTCP and don't know his identity. However, from reading his posts behind the country fun I see a Christian man who understands ethics in ministry, sound doctrine and theology. Perhaps the reason he is so passionate about false doctorates is that OTCP understands true Biblical humility is void of self promotion, let alone with deceptive titles.

Jesus had such a heart for people that when He saw them being deceived he overthrew the money changers tables. Jesus and Paul called out false teachers so the innocent would not be be deceived. It is refreshing for me to see somebody like OTCP who has the backbone and intensity for truth calling out WOF extremists who distort sound doctrine and theology that is focused on an eternal perspective. I believe us pastors need to do what it takes to share the truth and guard sound doctrine rather than being politically correct in the church world.


You have read the ole timer well, P7. Your research skills are to be commended.
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Post Re: Does that mean ALL of his other names are back too bonnie knox
brotherjames wrote:
Just kiddin' . I know he has just one. Wink
but if he's coming back, i think I will quit and all my names are going with me. See ya.
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Post Happy New Year Bonnie brotherjames
I was kidding but since you're so enthusiastic about me going I think I'll stay if only to bug you. Acts-celerater
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Proverbs 26:18-20New International Version (NIV)
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brotherjames wrote:
I was kidding but since you're so enthusiastic about me going I think I'll stay if only to bug you.
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Post Hahahahahah hahhahahahahahah maniacal laughing brotherjames
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was kidding but since you're so enthusiastic about me going I think I'll stay if only to bug you
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...I think I'll stay if only to bug you.


This could get interesting.
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Post OTCP Change Agent
I for one am tired of the OTCP that continually harps on false degrees and condemns "faith". Maybe OTCP could find some new subjects to enlighten the board. It would be a fresh breath of air. Definitely don't want OTCP to leave board.

Also don't want any of the "grace guys" leaving. I might get an answer on how much grace is available. I personally think there is a lot of grace available.
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Post Stay OTCP roughridercog
And take a piece of fudge cake out of petty cash.
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That's all there is to say.
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Post philunderwood
Regarding Doyle's request integrated with your lament, you must stay... The ship has sailed on what Acts formerly was and without you and your anonymous cohorts there would be no content. Acts has changed and you were instrumental to that change, a part of it, a leading voice to take it from what is was to what it is. Now that you have reoriented it, you must continue to be it's major contributor, chief protagonist and pedologicical voice. You ARE what it IS. It IS what you ARE. Be proud.
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Post It doesn't matter wahoo
Doesn't matter if OTCP stays or goes but, of course, he planned to stay all along, he just wanted someone to ask him to. Obvious with as many posts as he throws up that attention is something he has a desperate need for. I've been around for several years and used to enjoy the conversation, now I just stop by now and then to see if, by chance, there is anything of substance and, unfortunately, there rarely is. It's always sad to see something that had value become simply a diversion from reality but, so it goes. Acts-celerater
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Phil, I'm still around and posting and not anonymous.
I have the feeling that other people have moved on not so much because of OTCP as that perhaps another forum (such as Facebook or something) was where people were starting to spend their time.
Do you have evidence that anyone left because of OTCP? The only person I know who said he was going to leave if OTCP stayed was brotherjames, and he's STILL here a year later.
I also don't get why you feel it's necessary to drop in just to complain that Acts is dead. Is that your idea of a eulogy?
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