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 where is the legalistic practice of marriage in today's church?? |
UncleJD |
| Looking at the "evangelical church", I can tell you that a "rigid legalistic view" on divorce is NOT the case. |
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2/17/20 9:15 am
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UncleJD |
| I promise I thought I was replying to Dave's thread. I didn't intend to make this a new topic |
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2/17/20 9:16 am
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Dave Dorsey |
| In conservative theological circles like ours -- hence the thread here. |
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2/17/20 9:36 am
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UncleJD |
| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | In conservative theological circles like ours -- hence the thread here. |
Maybe in theology, but not in practice Dave. I think the danger is on the other side of the coin myself. People are divorced for petty reasons in churches every day, often with encouragement from the pastor and leadership. I'd bet there were 10 examples of frivolous divorces (or more) for every one of the other. |
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2/17/20 10:09 am
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Dave Dorsey |
| UncleJD wrote: | | Maybe in theology, but not in practice Dave. I think the danger is on the other side of the coin myself. People are divorced for petty reasons in churches every day, often with encouragement from the pastor and leadership. I'd bet there were 10 examples of frivolous divorces (or more) for every one of the other. |
I think most would agree with that.
That's clearly not the case everywhere though, as there was both rigorous debate in that thread and people sharing stories about themselves and people they knew who had been harmed by legalism.
Are you saying we shouldn't discuss any kind of error so long as bigger versions of error exist about that topic? For example, we shouldn't talk about preachers who beat people over the head to give because a lot of people don't give at all? This thread/objection doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. |
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UncleJD |
| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | Maybe in theology, but not in practice Dave. I think the danger is on the other side of the coin myself. People are divorced for petty reasons in churches every day, often with encouragement from the pastor and leadership. I'd bet there were 10 examples of frivolous divorces (or more) for every one of the other. |
I think most would agree with that.
That's clearly not the case everywhere though, as there was both rigorous debate in that thread and people sharing stories about themselves and people they knew who had been harmed by legalism.
Are you saying we shouldn't discuss any kind of error so long as bigger versions of error exist about that topic? For example, we shouldn't talk about preachers who beat people over the head to give because a lot of people don't give at all? This thread/objection doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. |
In that case I guess I'm glad I made this a separate thread after all. I'm against a woman staying with a man who is beating her and I think I can make a biblical case for it (he may "want" her to stay, but his actions prove otherwise). But I think the VAST majority of divorce in the world and even in the Church is contrary to scripture. In my own experience in the COG, I've had 2 pastors who condoned divorce and remarriage, even when the person re-marrying was the one who committed adultery and the remaining spouse was hoping for reconciliation! One even held forth as some grand marriage counseling pastor who other pastors in the district/state sent couples to for counseling, who actually encouraged divorce for simply "not getting along" (he said as much from the pulpit! ). Many sermons I've actually heard from the pulpit was on the side of "divorce is sad but lets all just accept it" camp and very rarely have I heard the opposite extreme since at least the 70s. |
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2/17/20 11:24 am
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Quiet Wyatt |
I believe your assessment is correct, UncleJD. Sadly.
I myself suffered through an unwanted divorce many years ago which I even fought to no avail in a no-fault divorce state. I think each case must be judged on its own merits and demerits. Except for egregious cases, I would NEVER advocate for divorce, ESPECIALLY if it was a divorce with a plan for quick remarriage to the newfound ‘love.’ |
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2/17/20 11:46 am
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Dave Dorsey |
| UncleJD, I agree 100% with your perspective about how frivolously some (many?) treat divorce and remarriage. There are without question ditches on both sides of that road. |
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