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krista |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | Definitely recommended.
However, with everyone else gone - I guess I will just have to learn to settle for Brad's posts.
Not many others are left.  |
I'm still here NB.  |
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3/21/17 10:51 am
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Charles Page |
clearly it is KW verses the COG
How can you get around that?
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3/21/17 12:32 pm
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bradfreeman |
| krista wrote: | | In Brad's case, it's not the idea that the COG has abandon him ( Which he strongly claims ), but he chose to abandon the COG. There are times, "See ya"!!!! |
I left the COG. No doubt. Not the people, the corporation. If the COG or anyone in it has abandoned me (which I have never claimed), it happened after I left.
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3/21/17 12:37 pm
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krista |
| bradfreeman wrote: | | krista wrote: | | In Brad's case, it's not the idea that the COG has abandon him ( Which he strongly claims ), but he chose to abandon the COG. There are times, "See ya"!!!! |
I left the COG. No doubt. Not the people, the corporation. If the COG or anyone in it has abandoned me (which I have never claimed), it happened after I left. |
Your continuing to refer to the COG as a "corporation" clearly displays your contempt. |
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3/21/17 8:54 pm
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Cojak |
I really was concerned that a lot of mud would be thrown, but I haven't seen it. I really have not seen the Wallace vs COG, even though I would have preferred the physical separation had not happened. But it has and There have been one or two 'possible snarky' remarks but far and away it has been Bless him (Without the "don't let the door hit you in the rear as you leave")!
I was sorta proud of the COG family.
(even though me 'n him are not tight anymore and he ain't gonna invite me to dinner!)
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3/21/17 11:07 pm
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bradfreeman |
| krista wrote: | | Your continuing to refer to the COG as a "corporation" clearly displays your contempt. |
What is it then, if not a corporation? Is is a club? Is it a division of Christ?
Christ isn't divided.
"Now I mean this, that each one of you is saying, “I am of Paul,” and “I of Apollos,” and “I of Cephas,” and “I of Christ.” Has Christ been divided? Paul was not crucified for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?" 1 Cor 1:12,13
What is the difference between those who are of Luther? Lutherans?
Those who are of Welsey? Wesleyans?
Those who are of Campbell? Christian Church?
Those who are of Spurling?
The COG is a corporation. It has to be fed and watered. It can sue and be sued. It is an entity. Christ doesn't save corporations.
I may have some contempt for all the wasted energy and resources that are spent on, devoted to the corporation. I had had no idea the drain it was on me personally until I was considering leaving. Then I felt the inertia it created. I honestly felt stuck.
The church is bigger than a denomination, a division of the body of Christ. When we announce that someone is "leaving" the COG, it identifies the problem, the inertia, the wrong value, the wrong perception we attribute to the corporation. If it's more than a corporation, something that deserves loyalty, where we feel "leaving" is a betrayal of sorts, we need to reconsider it.
"Why, if you're not a member of the COG, you should leave here!"
This thinking is twisted, wicked, wrong.
The only "members" in the new covenant church are the members of His body. Anything else is a club. If clubs are exclusive and divisive, they are wrong.
Christ isn't divided.
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3/22/17 6:26 am
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| bradfreeman wrote: | | krista wrote: | | Your continuing to refer to the COG as a "corporation" clearly displays your contempt. |
What is it then, if not a corporation? Is is a club? Is it a division of Christ?
Christ isn't divided.
"Now I mean this, that each one of you is saying, “I am of Paul,” and “I of Apollos,” and “I of Cephas,” and “I of Christ.” Has Christ been divided? Paul was not crucified for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?" 1 Cor 1:12,13
What is the difference between those who are of Luther? Lutherans?
Those who are of Welsey? Wesleyans?
Those who are of Campbell? Christian Church?
Those who are of Spurling?
The COG is a corporation. It has to be fed and watered. It can sue and be sued. It is an entity. Christ doesn't save corporations.
I may have some contempt for all the wasted energy and resources that are spent on, devoted to the corporation. I had had no idea the drain it was on me personally until I was considering leaving. Then I felt the inertia it created. I honestly felt stuck.
The church is bigger than a denomination, a division of the body of Christ. When we announce that someone is "leaving" the COG, it identifies the problem, the inertia, the wrong value, the wrong perception we attribute to the corporation. If it's more than a corporation, something that deserves loyalty, where we feel "leaving" is a betrayal of sorts, we need to reconsider it.
"Why, if you're not a member of the COG, you should leave here!"
This thinking is twisted, wicked, wrong.
The only "members" in the new covenant church are the members of His body. Anything else is a club. If clubs are exclusive and divisive, they are wrong.
Christ isn't divided. |
The Church of God is a fellowship. It is a family. |
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3/22/17 7:11 am
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bradfreeman |
| caveator wrote: | | The Church of God is a fellowship. It is a family. |
Isn't that what the Body of Christ is?
How is the COG different from the Body of Christ, in your view...where someone can "leave" it or "join" it?
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3/22/17 7:18 am
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sheepdogandy |
There is only ONE Church.
The membership roll is kept in Heaven.
The "Lamb's Book of Life".
The A/G is a fellowship.
Cleveland is a corporation.
Before you jump.
"SPWC Incorporated" speaks for itself. 
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3/22/17 8:51 am
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Nature Boy Florida |
Sorry Brad: Some folks say they are in the body of Christ, when they really aren't. Their stated beliefs indicate they aren't.
Denominations are just one way to help folks distinguish certain beliefs. (There are others).
Catholic is one denomination.
Mormon is another.
1st Church of Satan is another.
The word Jesus comes up in all of their meetings. But, they don't mean it the same way.
We all understand there is only one body - but everyone that says they are in, aren't.
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3/22/17 9:18 am
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c6thplayer1 |
| sheepdogandy wrote: | There is only ONE Church.
The membership roll is kept in Heaven.
The "Lamb's Book of Life".
The A/G is a fellowship.
Cleveland is a corporation.
Before you jump.
"SPWC Incorporated" speaks for itself. |
Does this include baptist?  |
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3/22/17 9:30 am
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krista |
| bradfreeman wrote: | | krista wrote: | | Your continuing to refer to the COG as a "corporation" clearly displays your contempt. |
What is it then, if not a corporation? Is is a club? Is it a division of Christ?
Christ isn't divided.
"Now I mean this, that each one of you is saying, “I am of Paul,” and “I of Apollos,” and “I of Cephas,” and “I of Christ.” Has Christ been divided? Paul was not crucified for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?" 1 Cor 1:12,13
What is the difference between those who are of Luther? Lutherans?
Those who are of Welsey? Wesleyans?
Those who are of Campbell? Christian Church?
Those who are of Spurling?
The COG is a corporation. It has to be fed and watered. It can sue and be sued. It is an entity. Christ doesn't save corporations.
I may have some contempt for all the wasted energy and resources that are spent on, devoted to the corporation. I had had no idea the drain it was on me personally until I was considering leaving. Then I felt the inertia it created. I honestly felt stuck.
The church is bigger than a denomination, a division of the body of Christ. When we announce that someone is "leaving" the COG, it identifies the problem, the inertia, the wrong value, the wrong perception we attribute to the corporation. If it's more than a corporation, something that deserves loyalty, where we feel "leaving" is a betrayal of sorts, we need to reconsider it.
"Why, if you're not a member of the COG, you should leave here!"
This thinking is twisted, wicked, wrong.
The only "members" in the new covenant church are the members of His body. Anything else is a club. If clubs are exclusive and divisive, they are wrong.
Christ isn't divided. |
Explain it however you want. But you know and every person on Acts who is COG, knows what you mean when you refer to it as a " Corporation". |
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3/22/17 2:12 pm
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Bro Bob |
Krista, I don't know how to explain the mind of anyone who quotes 1 Cor 1:12-13, and from there proceeds to ignore the fact that congregations are following a man anywhere he decides to go, rather than holding fast to their own declarations of what they believe, and how they will conduct themselves in relationship with like minded believers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pukq_XJmM-k
That movie has a lot of bad language in it. That portion does not.
I work for no man.
I follow no man.
I follow a path. As the Churchmen sang, it is a "Long and Winding Road," but I again would choose the same.
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3/22/17 2:35 pm
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| Aren't many churches corporations for tax purposes? |
caseyleejones |
| By the way, who is Kevin Wallace? |
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3/22/17 7:57 pm
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