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 Every Single Major Verse WOF Doctrine Stands On is Incorrectly Interpreted |
Old Time Country Preacher |
Yep, all the major verses that form the core of woffie thought are interpreted incorrectly by woffie luminaries and proponents.
Rom 4:17
3 John 2
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Da Sheik |
I agree, and I think the Declaration of Faith makes the same mistake with its statement on divine healing provided for all through the atonement. But that's another discussion for another day. Now I'm gonna go outside and call those things that be not as though they were. "I'm rich, I'm young, ..."  |
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7/14/16 10:19 am
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| Da Sheik wrote: | | I agree, and I think the Declaration of Faith makes the same mistake with its statement on divine healing provided for all through the atonement. But that's another discussion for another day. Now I'm gonna go outside and call those things that be not as though they were. "I'm rich, I'm young, ..." |
Though your stand is very unpopular. I agree with it.
Healing comes as an indirect benefit of the cross, in that, because Christ was obedient unto death of that cross, all authority in Heaven and Earth is given unto his name. Thus healing is in his name. The atonement was for sin alone.
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bonnie knox |
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| Da Sheik wrote: | | I agree, and I think the Declaration of Faith makes the same mistake with its statement on divine healing provided for all through the atonement. But that's another discussion for another day. Now I'm gonna go outside and call those things that be not as though they were. "I'm rich, I'm young, ..." |
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| Re: Every Single Major Verse WOF Doctrine Stands On is Incorrectly Interpreted |
bonnie knox |
You're just being hateful.
| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | Yep, all the major verses that form the core of woffie thought are interpreted incorrectly by woffie luminaries and proponents.
Rom 4:17
3 John 2
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| Re: Every Single Major Verse WOF Doctrine Stands On is Incorrectly Interpreted |
Old Time Country Preacher |
| bonnie knox wrote: | You're just being hateful.
| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | Yep, all the major verses that form the core of woffie thought are interpreted incorrectly by woffie luminaries and proponents.
Rom 4:17
3 John 2
Etc
Etc
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Some feel like at, Miss Bonnie, while swallerin woffie teachins hook, line & sinker. Not this ole feller, no sir ree bobby. |
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Cojak |
| Da Sheik wrote: | | I agree, and I think the Declaration of Faith makes the same mistake with its statement on divine healing provided for all through the atonement. But that's another discussion for another day. Now I'm gonna go outside and call those things that be not as though they were. "I'm rich, I'm young, ..." |
I'm inspired, Imma try that, 'specially the young part!  
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| Re: Every Single Major Verse WOF Doctrine Stands On is Incorrectly Interpreted |
bradfreeman |
| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | Yep, all the major verses that form the core of woffie thought are interpreted incorrectly by woffie luminaries and proponents.
Rom 4:17
3 John 2
Etc
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2 Questions:
1. What is the correct interpretation of these 2 passages:
Rom 4:16 For this reason it is by faith, in order that it may be in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the descendants, not only to those who are of the Law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, 17 (as it is written, “A father of many nations have I made you”) in the presence of Him whom he believed, even God, who gives life to the dead and calls into being that which does not exist. 18 In hope against hope he believed, so that he might become a father of many nations according to that which had been spoken, “So shall your descendants be.” 19 Without becoming weak in faith he contemplated his own body, now as good as dead since he was about a hundred years old, and the deadness of Sarah’s womb; 20 yet, with respect to the promise of God, he did not waver in unbelief but grew strong in faith, giving glory to God, 21 and being fully assured that what God had promised, He was able also to perform.
3 John 2 Beloved, I pray that in all respects you may prosper and be in good health, just as your soul prospers.
2. What are the "etc" verses?
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| Quote: | | In hope against hope he believed, so that he might become a father of many nations according to that which had been spoken... |
I love that phrase, 'In hope against hope he believed.' That is an example to follow with all of God's promises. The previous sentence that describes my God is equally impactful, '... in the presence of Him whom he believed, even God, who gives life to the dead and calls into being that which does not exist.'
Wow, that is NOT a GOD to minimize or believe less than the best about. Nor is it a GOD that I will speak ill of and say 'He is so arbitrary and random, I will NOT believe in faith for something I see in His Word. Rather, I will NEVER just sing "Que sera sera, whatever will be will be.' That is a slap in the face of His love and covenant care of me.
I do not get why we tell people to believe for salvation, strength, baptism in the Holy Ghost and such and then tell them NOT to believe for, but just ask for healing, and then when it does not come, to shrug our shoulders like it is GOD's will NOT to heal. Weird.
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| philunderwood wrote: | | Quote: | | In hope against hope he believed, so that he might become a father of many nations according to that which had been spoken... |
I love that phrase, 'In hope against hope he believed.' That is an example to follow with all of God's promises. The previous sentence that describes my God is equally impactful, '... in the presence of Him whom he believed, even God, who gives life to the dead and calls into being that which does not exist.'
Wow, that is NOT a GOD to minimize or believe less than the best about. Nor is it a GOD that I will speak ill of and say 'He is so arbitrary and random, I will NOT believe in faith for something I see in His Word. Rather, I will NEVER just sing "Que sera sera, whatever will be will be.' That is a slap in the face of His love and covenant care of me.
I do not get why we tell people to believe for salvation, strength, baptism in the Holy Ghost and such and then tell them NOT to believe for, but just ask for healing, and then when it does not come, to shrug our shoulders like it is GOD's will NOT to heal. Weird. |
It's all a question of timing.
When does all of God's promises become complete to the human?
New bodies, healing, no more death, Satan is defeated, etc...
Example: If only Jesus had been there before Lazarus died...a perspective that did not understand God's timing.
Show me the guy with the faith for everything he calls into existence occurs today?
Branham, Oral Roberts, Copeland, Brad, Phil?
If none of them have that faith - NONE OF THEM - we can choose to believe Jesus heaps guilt on EVERY single believer for lack of faith - where he tells them to have it - yet none of them can attain it - or we simply don't understand his timing.
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7/15/16 10:12 am
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Old Time Country Preacher |
Brad & Phil,
Ya both know what the ole timer is referencing, which is the hyper interpretations of certain passages to make em mean what they don't mean. |
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7/15/16 10:15 am
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