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Is being "real" the new godliness?I feel I'm in a different world

Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11798 **8/29/19 12:07 pm**

than I was 5 years ago....I feel i'm getting left behind...

A man I went to church with a number of years ago posted his opinion on FB regarding the two ministers who have walked away so to speak. He commended them for not being hypocritical anymore and for being "real" and it was okay to have doubts. His post was without scripture but he stated we all have had doubts....that agree with. But he learned more about God in his doubts than anywhere else. And as I mentioned, these men are just being "real".....which was what I gathered he saw as commendable.

Probably what astounded me more was how so many people liked the post who are friends of mine. I did not understand getting to know God more through doubts. Zero scripture to back up anything.

I did reply to his post to which I since deleted since it created a very adverse reaction from him. My post went something along the lines of...I do not understand how a person who left his spouse to embrace an alternative lifestyle is now somehow justifiable because he is being real. It was something like this but with more finesse. I said that are we somehow justifying sin under the guise of being real?

I am not a bible thumper. I was chastised by a fellow church board member due to my extreme embracing of grace. I believe in applying grace and truth to areas of sin. Maybe I am so disconnected from reality of church people.

My wife even said his post really tended to embrace universalism since he was intimating that he knows and understands God through his experiences. That said, I had a friend who went to the same church chastise me for deleting my responses because he felt it was a measured response to an otherwise gross believe system.

So...what'sup with this "being real" thing?

01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24285 **8/29/19 5:24 pm**

Funny thing about this being real is I thought I was real. LOL And then you said:

Probably what astounded me more was how so many people liked the post who are friends of mine.

Likes are sorta like my many friends on FB that I do notknow and have never seen. Many people will click 'Like' that do notleven understand what was written and some never even read. They click 'like' because it is a 'friend' on FB. Many times it is to avoid a comment.

Anyway, about every week or so, I feel like I am being left behind..... LOL

Take care and 'Get REal.' Which evidently doesn't mean the same to everyone.

Many times it is 'get wild' not get real.

Hang in there my friend. One day we will really know REAL Cool

PS: I probably spent too much time here, but I only spend an average of 2 minutes on FB every day, and that will be to wish my many friends a Happy Birthday! Shocked

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Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3147 **8/29/19 7:06 pm**

This particular instance of "keeping it real" was the Hillsong guy saying he no longer believed and was "keeping it real" by "asking the questions that nobody was asking" like 'Why does the Bible seem to contradict itself?", "How could a good God let people go to Hell?", In other words, his "keeping it real" was literally asking the same questions that have spawned THOUSANDS of books over the last 2000 years, in other words he's asking the questions that EVERYONE is asking. So no, he isn't "keeping it real", he's lying, using cheap excuses (with no scripture to back it up like you say) to justify his apostasy and telling everyone "Hey you can trust me now, since I've said one thing for 20 years and now suddenly I'm saying the opposite. If that's "keeping it real", then we must all be in the Matrix.

Disclaimer . I did borrow some of those thoughts from an article by the lead singer of Skillet, that pretty much nailed what I was thinking on this topic

I agree Cojak, but it seems for now I'm falling behind

Acts-perienced Poster Posts: 11798 **8/29/19 8:10 pm**

the new wave of christianity.

Its called deconstructionism

Golf Cart Mafia Soldier Posts: 2447 **8/30/19 9:53 am**

Deconstruction comes from the secular theory. It is all the rage among the younger generations.

â€œDeconstructionism is a form of philosophical and literary analysis, derived mainly from work begun in the 1960s by the French philosopher Jacques Derrida, that questions the fundamental conceptual distinctions, or â€œoppositions,â€ in Western philosophy through a close examination of the language and logic of philosophical and literary texts. In the 1970s the term was applied to work by Derrida, Paul de Man, J. Hillis Miller, and Barbara Johnson, among other scholars. In the 1980s it designated more loosely a range of radical theoretical enterprises in diverse areas of the humanities and social sciences, includingâ€”in addition to philosophy and literatureâ€”law, psychoanalysis, architecture, anthropology, theology, feminism, gay and lesbian studies, political theory, historiography, and film theory. In polemical discussions about intellectual trends of the late 20th-century, deconstruction was sometimes used pejoratively to suggest nihilism and frivolous skepticism. In popular usage the term has come to mean a critical dismantling of tradition and traditional modes of thought â€œ https://www.britannica.com/topic/deconstruction

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1323 **8/30/19 12:32 pm**

I've given up on wondering what others think is real Christianity. It's like trying to hit a jet in the air with a lawn dart.

Every time someone comes out with a new idea the world thinks it's so wonderful. Acts 17:21

I've got all I can do everyday to try and live this life myself. Truth be known, I can't live it out myself.

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5923 **8/31/19 12:19 pm**

Defining what's "real" outside of Biblical truth is dangerous territory.
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