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Acts-celerater Posts: 755 **5/16/12 10:46 am**

I was delighted when I saw that announcement on the Camp Meeting poster. My immediate response was, well, that is one night I will be there.

When the powers that be see the outcome of that service, next year maybe there will be the reverse. One night of, so called, worship music and four of the real thing.

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1345 **5/16/12 11:30 am**

Re: Wow...

Golf Cart Mafia Capo Posts: 2960 **5/16/12 11:31 am**

To Krista, "Our" heritage?

Friendly Face Posts: 467 **5/16/12 12:28 pm**

I am 4th generation CoG and my offspring is 5th.

That doesn't make me any better or worse by the way.

Actually, I don't need the hymnal, because I know most of the songs by heart, including many of the page numbers. I'm probably older than you think I am.

I did not "condemn" anything.

I offered my opinion and you guys jumped pretty hard actually, even questioning my salvation.

I forgive you for that... if you forgive me for "lumping you with Bonnie." (I really don't know either of you)

I want to see our denomination move forward, not backward.

And my avatar is not a symbol of death. I can't help being a pirate, I was born that way.

Aaaarrggghh!
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Ever since ...

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1994 **5/16/12 12:52 pm**

Ever since the overhead projector was invented and the split track LP (remember them) came out with "God's Got an Army" Pastors have faced the battle. Old songs verse new choruses, books verse screens, down loads verse printed music; live musicians verse IWorship, etc, etc. Makes you want to take a sword out and cut the baby in half. I have come to the conclusion that some congregations should stop worrying about attracting the “youth market” and worship God the way they are most comfortable with. It the younger minister/member cannot stand the way the older people worship, they should start their own church (most likely, even after you invest in reaching them they will anyway). Old people don’t cry that you have no youth, young people don’t cry that you have no money. Let each group support there own congregation.

As a matter of fact I think parents and grandparents should stop supporting their kids so much. You’ve worked hard to have what you got. You deserve to go on vacation and you should not have to keep supporting little “Johnny” into his 30’s just because he can’t grow up. You don’t have to support his church if they in turn say “you’re stuck in the past.” This generation needs to have their chance at being “builders” just like the last. Churches that try to ensure the financial wellbeing of future generations are endanger of funding the very things they do not believe in. It is the same for parents who try to give their kids everything.

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Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3063 **5/16/12 1:24 pm**

I agree! I think it is a great idea. One of the reasons Camp Meeting attendance has declined in the last decade or two is the inconsistent liturgy. There is something to be said about common liturgy- singing the songs we know together, from the heart, instead of from the screen.

I have made this argument to several of my friends and colleagues here in WNC. Camp Meeting is not successful because people aren't motivated about it. We come together, try to keep up with words on the screen, and once we actually figure them out we are interrupted to greet some dignitary or take up some offering.

But something powerful happens when we join together and sing the songs of our faith. Common liturgy is something pulls us altogether as a family. Worshiping in one mind and one accord. Hymns are simple, powerful songs that we can all relate to and sing with. You don't even need the best talent in the world to make them sound good!

So I am for it. I don't know what state you are from, but I wish WNC would do the same thing. I believe it would bring us one step closer to connecting us together once a year, when we are so disconnected throughout it.

I like Praise and Worship....

Acts-celerater Posts: 812 **5/16/12 1:45 pm**

...even thought that was what I was doing when I sang out of the Red Back Hymnal. Doesn't matter what particular Christian song you sing, praise and worship comes from the heart and not from a cheerleader up front with a Red Back, or a screen aided by a computer. I like both styles of music. But today when loneliness and questions set in, the song that seemed to help the most was "I Must Tell Jesus"..........Jesus will help me, Jesus alone. Yes it's in the Red Back. But I remember once at Youth Camp, could have been Ken Hensley, had a different version that was taught to the youth for the Youth Camp Choir. We didn't hold the Red Back. It was on a sheet of paper---like some churches use with the P & W words. It was just as powerful either way.

Acts-celerater Posts: 633 **5/16/12 1:57 pm**

Friendly Face Posts: 243 **5/16/12 1:57 pm**

What state campmeeting is this going to take place at?

Re: To Krista, "Our" heritage?

Golf Cart Mafia Capo Posts: 2960 **5/16/12 2:14 pm**

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Acts-celerater Posts: 755 **5/16/12 3:10 pm**

Krista, again jumping pretty hard

Friendly Face Posts: 467 **5/16/12 4:59 pm**

I have a right to my opinion. You don't need to jump so hard... offering me the door? That's hardly a good attitude.

And please do not think to lecture me about building a heritage in the CoG. My family has served in Leadership in this church for four straight generations, besides building churches & parsonages, pastoring churches and supporting just about every program out there. And I personally have served in every capacity, in the beginning for little or no pay. I have over 20 years of successful pastoral experience.

If we cannot be changed from within, then how?
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Re: Krista, again jumping pretty hard

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Acts-celerater Posts: 755 **5/16/12 8:41 pm**

There is a lot to what the Major says!!!!

01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24285 **5/16/12 10:37 pm**

Good comment.

I am not against what the Original poster says, just don't understand it.
Personally, I do not care who is the largest, COG or AOG as long as we are winning souls.
i don't care what songs you use to do that, if it works, hey, I am for it.

Also, Bonnie has some good ideas, even if she is a woman!!! Wink

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I'll ask it here

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1050 **5/17/12 5:50 am**

My church is dead set to sing nothing but redback songs in church. So I'll ask the question here that I ask them...

What did the church sing before the redback?

There had to be a time before the redback or greenback (we have both), did those in the church before the redback have the same feelings against the redback as some have against the worship songs of today?

Re: I'll ask it here

Golf Cart Mafia Associate Posts: 2118 **5/17/12 6:00 am**