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Moving away from an Israelocentric eschatology

Acts-dicted Posts: 8065 **3/21/17 10:24 am**

Just curious to know if there are any on this board whose eschatology departs from the current traditional emphasis on the reconstitution of Israel as a nation in 1948. To put it another way, are there any on here who do not see the reconstitution of Israel as a fulfillment of biblical prophecy?
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Golf Cart Mafia Underboss Posts: 3638 **3/21/17 10:52 am**

Israel is the key to understanding where we are on God's prophetic calendar.

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1865 **3/21/17 11:04 am**

We have a Messianic congregation that uses our facility on Saturdays. The pastor (like our own Mark L) is very knowledgeable about all things Hebraic. He does not see "1948" as some key major date, but definitely feels that Israel will once again become crucial in eschatology. Many don't realize this, but the nation of Israel is largely secular. I think most Christians envision the nation of Israel as devout adherents to Judaism. That simply isn't the case.

However, Paul seems to indicate in Romans 11 that there is certainly a future significance for Israel. Not to mention all major eschatological prophecies seem to center around the Middle East.

Friendly Face Posts: 346 **3/21/17 12:27 pm**

Judaism was destroyed in 70 AD and is never going to revive.
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Acts-dicted Posts: 8065 **3/21/17 12:53 pm**

Re: No

Acts-dicted Posts: 8065 **3/21/17 2:55 pm**

Just some questions to consider:

Hey, DOC Posts: 68 **3/22/17 10:13 am**

Who is the true Israel?

A nation?
A religion?
An ethnicity?

Or, are those who follow Israel's Messiah (*cough* Jesus *cough*) the true Israel?
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Re: Just some questions to consider:

Acts-dicted Posts: 8065 **3/22/17 10:44 am**

Friendly Face Posts: 346 **3/22/17 7:30 pm**

The nation of Israel today claims an ethnicity that goes back to the Old Testament. They are not a religion and I don't believe they ever will. Jewish Israel was destroyed by Christ and his heavenly host in 70 AD -never to exist again.
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