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AB ain't all it's cracked up to be? |
aprilmay2.0 |
With the recent discussion and transition of some AB's I read the threads and wonder if we are asking the right questions. Here are a few questions I think of:
1. Who leaves Alabama (a 5 star state and one of the top positions in COG) 6 months after appointment and with less than 2 years of tenure? Moves like this are usually done as a favor for someone else or a punishment. Or maybe Bishop brewer (a fine upstanding reputable man) just figures being an AB ain't all it's cracked up to be.
2. Who gets a return vote and reappointed to IN as an AB with good history and then decides to go pastor 6months later? Neff is a fine upstanding man and I'm sure he hears Gods voice. But maybe being an AB ain't all it's cracked up to be.
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Friendly Face Posts: 165 1/23/17 10:17 am
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Cojak |
Definitely a good point, but maybe the job is bigger or tougher than expected also.
And then there is the old adage that is true in EVERY life, "THINGS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE". Some lives are turned upside down physically or mentally in minutes!  _________________ Some facts but mostly just my opinion!
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01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24285 1/23/17 1:05 pm

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Not a job I would want |
roughridercog |
So I'm glad they never asked  _________________ Doctor of Bovinamodulation |
Acts Mod Posts: 25305 1/23/17 1:51 pm

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maybe the question is: what makes a great AB?
how do you know if you are one? do the qualifications vary by region? would it be too much a stretch to assume that a "good" AB for NGA wouldn't be a fitting AB for Cali/NV? |
Friendly Face Posts: 146 1/23/17 3:35 pm
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#18 wrote: | maybe the question is: what makes a great AB?
how do you know if you are one? do the qualifications vary by region? would it be too much a stretch to assume that a "good" AB for NGA wouldn't be a fitting AB for Cali/NV? |
I think that you would discover that NGA and Cali/Nev are more alike than you think. Contrasting California with S Carolina, Alabama, or South Georgia may make your point better. |
Acts-celerater Posts: 586 1/23/17 5:13 pm
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Cojak |
caveator wrote: | #18 wrote: | maybe the question is: what makes a great AB?
how do you know if you are one? do the qualifications vary by region? would it be too much a stretch to assume that a "good" AB for NGA wouldn't be a fitting AB for Cali/NV? |
I think that you would discover that NGA and Cali/Nev are more alike than you think. Contrasting California with S Carolina, Alabama, or South Georgia may make your point better. |
So, C. What are you saying about North Georgia, 'em redneck preachers ain't like them liberal California guys like ........
You might be right.  _________________ Some facts but mostly just my opinion!
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01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24285 1/23/17 6:04 pm

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Re: AB ain't all it's cracked up to be? |
Carolyn Smith |
aprilmay2.0 wrote: | With the recent discussion and transition of some AB's I read the threads and wonder if we are asking the right questions. Here are a few questions I think of:
1. Who leaves Alabama (a 5 star state and one of the top positions in COG) 6 months after appointment and with less than 2 years of tenure? Moves like this are usually done as a favor for someone else or a punishment. Or maybe Bishop brewer (a fine upstanding reputable man) just figures being an AB ain't all it's cracked up to be.
2. Who gets a return vote and reappointed to IN as an AB with good history and then decides to go pastor 6months later? Neff is a fine upstanding man and I'm sure he hears Gods voice. But maybe being an AB ain't all it's cracked up to be.
Your thoughts? |
Bishop Brewer has been an AB for 14 years. I think he would have figured out by now whether or not he liked it. _________________ "More of Him...less of me."
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Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5923 1/23/17 11:00 pm

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georgiapath |
A former pastor said he actually made less money being an AB, than he was making when he left the church he was pastoring. |
Acts-dicted Posts: 7604 1/24/17 11:56 am
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caveator wrote: | #18 wrote: | maybe the question is: what makes a great AB?
how do you know if you are one? do the qualifications vary by region? would it be too much a stretch to assume that a "good" AB for NGA wouldn't be a fitting AB for Cali/NV? |
I think that you would discover that NGA and Cali/Nev are more alike than you think. Contrasting California with S Carolina, Alabama, or South Georgia may make your point better. |
Sure, let's go with that. the questions remain. |
Friendly Face Posts: 146 1/24/17 12:30 pm
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Old Time Country Preacher |
I guess they is times at no position is "all its cracked up to be." That is, we git a certain perception of certain positions an think maybe its a gravy train or easy street, but hey, don't ever think such a position exists. Not in this world. With ever right they is a responsibility.
The ole timer respects fellers in these executive positions, you know they hear more bad than good most a the time. Ever time they go preach somebody is unloadin on em. If they make the church happy the preacher is mad. If they make the preacher happy the church is mad. My gootness, hey, we need to pray fer these fellers. |
Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 1/24/17 5:00 pm
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caveator |
In recent years, most AB's have either been State Youth Directors or Pastors of Congregations of 500 or under. It is difficult for a pastor of a congregation over 500 to justify leaving to become a state bishop. Most would certainly take a pay cut. If someone is a true shepherd that loves to be with people, transitions to the position of an administrative bishop is a lonely and unappreciated place to be. |
Acts-celerater Posts: 586 1/24/17 5:23 pm
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Being at the top, |
Methocostal |
makes a good target for others to shoot.
I'm not a preacher and obviously have never been an AB, but I have been a CFO. That is a lonely place as well. Lots of critics, everyone has an opinion. Sometimes a person has to make a decision they don't even like themselves.
I'm sure the AB shares many of the same frustrations. |
Friendly Face Posts: 496 1/25/17 3:18 pm
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Cojak |
Methocostal wrote: | makes a good target for others to shoot.
I'm not a preacher and obviously have never been an AB, but I have been a CFO. That is a lonely place as well. Lots of critics, everyone has an opinion. Sometimes a person has to make a decision they don't even like themselves.
I'm sure the AB shares many of the same frustrations. |
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01000001 01100011 01110100 01110011 Posts: 24285 1/25/17 6:48 pm

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Nature Boy Florida |
AB - toughest job in COG.
Why would anyone take that job?
You have way too many folks pastoring that don't have the gift...and they go around complaining that the problem is the members...so they run them off....and when there isn't any more money to pay for Cracker Barrel and a roof over their head - they go to the AB to place them somewhere else - and begin the same problems all over again.
Apparently ABs aren't allowed to tell guys they would be better suited for the food service or sanitation industries - anything that doesn't involve working with people. Otherwise, why do we have the same guys moving every 4 years to a new place?  _________________ Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because its the best thing going today! |
Acts-pert Poster Posts: 16646 1/26/17 11:02 am

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Old Time Country Preacher |
Nature Boy Florida wrote: | they go around complaining that the problem is the members...so they run them off....and when there isn't any more money to pay for Cracker Barrel and a roof over their head - they go to the AB to place them somewhere else - and begin the same problems all over again. |
As Ray Hughes said about the ole feller in South Georgia told him after Hughes had preached on the end times, "Ats about as plain as I ever hear-ed it." |
Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 1/26/17 3:11 pm
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