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				  A Tom Sterbens flashback!! | 
		Resident Skeptic | 
 
		
			
			 
			
				Tom Sterbens had this to say a couple of years back about restoring ministers who have fallen into immorality...
 
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"This is a point I've tried to make over and over again through the years.
 
 
Point - the means by which a person is initially established in ministry is by observed behavior (life of faith) over a period of time, by those h
 
 e or she lives with and around. That is how they first were
 
 acknowledged to serve in a place of leadership influence...even in the COG.
 
 
Point - what typically happens in restoration initiatives is done my counselors, or some mechanical expression of an organization (denomination).
 
 
We should focus on restored fruit rather restored gifts...and insist that a person become involved with a community of believers - who witness the life and faith of the individual over a period of time.
 
 
AGAIN - our focus is on restoring a gift not a person (error). Let them grow within a community of believers and serve within that group. For some of those who have fallen, that may in fact happen in a year or two, for others it may never happen at all.
 
 
I am not being harsh, cruel or legalistic, sincerely. I want to see the most effective restoration process we might be able to embrace, and we will only do that when we pursue the most biblical path forward." | 	 
  _________________ "It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves UPCI | 
		Acts-dicted Posts: 8065 9/21/16 1:06 pm
 
 
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				  Re: A Tom Sterbens flashback!! | 
		diakoneo | 
 
		
			
			 
			
				 	  | Resident Skeptic wrote: | 	 		  Tom Sterbens had this to say a couple of years back about restoring ministers who have fallen into immorality...
 
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"This is a point I've tried to make over and over again through the years.
 
 
Point - the means by which a person is initially established in ministry is by observed behavior (life of faith) over a period of time, by those h
 
 e or she lives with and around. That is how they first were
 
 acknowledged to serve in a place of leadership influence...even in the COG.
 
 
Point - what typically happens in restoration initiatives is done my counselors, or some mechanical expression of an organization (denomination).
 
 
We should focus on restored fruit rather restored gifts...and insist that a person become involved with a community of believers - who witness the life and faith of the individual over a period of time.
 
 
AGAIN - our focus is on restoring a gift not a person (error). Let them grow within a community of believers and serve within that group. For some of those who have fallen, that may in fact happen in a year or two, for others it may never happen at all.
 
 
I am not being harsh, cruel or legalistic, sincerely. I want to see the most effective restoration process we might be able to embrace, and we will only do that when we pursue the most biblical path forward." | 	 
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		Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3382 9/21/16 1:12 pm
 
 
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