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 Good chance of a Lib as the next Pres and here is why |
JLarry |
If you depended on the Government for my food, housing, health care and more, you may vote for a Liberal so you could continue to live off others.
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| No doubt that's true JL. Another big reason is that Donald Trump will win the Republican primaries and no one other than the 40% who put him there will vote for him in the general election. |
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| Re: Good chance of a Lib as the next Pres and here is why |
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| JLarry wrote: | | If you depended on the Government for my food, housing, health care and more, you may vote for a Liberal so you could continue to live off others. |
Dr JL, son, this is one a the main reasons why democrats has been voting democrat since FDR. |
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| Quote: | | No doubt that's true JL. Another big reason is that Donald Trump will win the Republican primaries and no one other than the 40% who put him there will vote for him in the general election. |
You sir, are mistaken. I do not plan to vote for Trump in the primary, but if he win it, I plan to vote for him in November.
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UncleJD |
| JLarry wrote: |
You sir, are mistaken. I do not plan to vote for Trump in the primary, but if he win it, I plan to vote for him in November. |
Not according to most polls, he has the least amount of support as an alternative than any other candidate running. You may vote for him in November, but the important undecided and non-party voter is what makes the difference and Trump is at the VERY bottom of that one. A Trump nomination is a Clinton win, hands-down plain and simple. |
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bonnie knox |
And even if Trump did win, we would probably still have a liberal president.  |
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UncleJD |
| bonnie knox wrote: | | And even if Trump did win, we would probably still have a liberal president. |
I was thinking the same thing |
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Cojak |
| bonnie knox wrote: | | And even if Trump did win, we would probably still have a liberal president. |
There is no doubt in my mind that Trump is a liberal in most respects. The only life saving feature of Trump is he may TRY to limit Gov't and Spending, something no president has done since xxxxxxx (Clinton?) In many way Clinton was the bet 'Republican' president we have had in a long time. I did say in some ways. He and Gingrich did work together and passed a good budget! 
BUT I have no earthly idea. As my grandson is fond of saying when asked a question, "I haven't a clue!" I look at my ballot and out of 13, I have about 6 I halfway like, but don't really think they can win.
I still think if Trump doesn't get the nod, or starts down hill as a Republican, he will run as an indy and REALLY split the GOO.
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| UncleJD wrote: | | bonnie knox wrote: | | And even if Trump did win, we would probably still have a liberal president. |
I was thinking the same thing |
Yep...me too! |
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Dean Steenburgh |
He's not my first, second or even third choice but if he's the only GOP choice in November this conservative will be voting for him.
I just can't for the life of me figure out why he's showing so much voter support & strength in S. Carolina & already in Nevada.
In fact Nevada is showing him at 44% which is way above where Reagan was at this point in 1980 when it was a week before the Nevada primary back then.
I think it would be interesting if Bloomberg (independent) jumped in. He's also 10X richer than Trump.
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Resident Skeptic |
| UncleJD wrote: | | bonnie knox wrote: | | And even if Trump did win, we would probably still have a liberal president. |
I was thinking the same thing |
Liberals do not want America to be great, have secure borders, and to have trade deals that actually help the economy and worker.
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| Resident Skeptic wrote: |
Liberals do not want America to be great, have secure borders, and to have trade deals that actually help the economy and worker. |
Liberals do not want America to be great - Name one that says that
What liberals DO say
1. I'm very pro-choice
2. I think the rich should pay higher taxes
3. I believe in imminent domain for corporations
4. I believe you should sue for frivolous reasons
5. Its ok to go bankrupt for the sole purpose of making money
6. Let's raise protectionist tariffs and tell private companies they can't do business wherever they want to do it.
7. I don't need God's forgiveness because I've never done wrong (ok maybe that's just narcissists, not necessarily liberals) |
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2/17/16 6:01 pm
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Resident Skeptic |
| UncleJD wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: |
Liberals do not want America to be great, have secure borders, and to have trade deals that actually help the economy and worker. |
Liberals do not want America to be great - Name one that says that
What liberals DO say
1. I'm very pro-choice
2. I think the rich should pay higher taxes
3. I believe in imminent domain for corporations
4. I believe you should sue for frivolous reasons
5. Its ok to go bankrupt for the sole purpose of making money
6. Let's raise protectionist tariffs and tell private companies they can't do business wherever they want to do it.
7. I don't need God's forgiveness because I've never done wrong (ok maybe that's just narcissists, not necessarily liberals) |
Wanting to bring America down and weaken her is a standard liberal mantra. You really don't know that?
And let's clarify one thing. "Trump" never went bankrupt. Some entities he owned filed for bankruptcy protection. Please name anyone who was not eventually paid back.
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UncleJD |
| Resident Skeptic wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: |
Liberals do not want America to be great, have secure borders, and to have trade deals that actually help the economy and worker. |
Liberals do not want America to be great - Name one that says that
What liberals DO say
1. I'm very pro-choice
2. I think the rich should pay higher taxes
3. I believe in imminent domain for corporations
4. I believe you should sue for frivolous reasons
5. Its ok to go bankrupt for the sole purpose of making money
6. Let's raise protectionist tariffs and tell private companies they can't do business wherever they want to do it.
7. I don't need God's forgiveness because I've never done wrong (ok maybe that's just narcissists, not necessarily liberals) |
Wanting to bring America down and weaken her is a standard liberal mantra. You really don't know that?
And let's clarify one thing. "Trump" never went bankrupt. Some entities he owned filed for bankruptcy protection. Please name anyone who was not eventually paid back. |
I agree that's what we believe liberals will do if they get their way, but you won't find one that actually says it "I want to bring America down and weaken her", that's just silly
Trump bought companies that were struggling and declared bankruptcy where the previous owners would not in order to make a profit. There, that is clarified. He didn't just happen to own some companies that went bankrupt without his involvement. He planned the bankruptcy to make money at the expense of creditors who lost money. That is wrong no matter how you spin it. |
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Resident Skeptic |
| UncleJD wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | Resident Skeptic wrote: |
Liberals do not want America to be great, have secure borders, and to have trade deals that actually help the economy and worker. |
Liberals do not want America to be great - Name one that says that
What liberals DO say
1. I'm very pro-choice
2. I think the rich should pay higher taxes
3. I believe in imminent domain for corporations
4. I believe you should sue for frivolous reasons
5. Its ok to go bankrupt for the sole purpose of making money
6. Let's raise protectionist tariffs and tell private companies they can't do business wherever they want to do it.
7. I don't need God's forgiveness because I've never done wrong (ok maybe that's just narcissists, not necessarily liberals) |
Wanting to bring America down and weaken her is a standard liberal mantra. You really don't know that?
And let's clarify one thing. "Trump" never went bankrupt. Some entities he owned filed for bankruptcy protection. Please name anyone who was not eventually paid back. |
I agree that's what we believe liberals will do if they get their way, but you won't find one that actually says it "I want to bring America down and weaken her", that's just silly
Trump bought companies that were struggling and declared bankruptcy where the previous owners would not in order to make a profit. There, that is clarified. He didn't just happen to own some companies that went bankrupt without his involvement. He planned the bankruptcy to make money at the expense of creditors who lost money. That is wrong no matter how you spin it. |
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/21/carly-fiorina/trumps-four-bankruptcies/
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Cojak |
| Resident Skeptic wrote: |
And let's clarify one thing. "Trump" never went bankrupt. Some entities he owned filed for bankruptcy protection. Please name anyone who was not eventually paid back. |
If everyone got paid, then it was not a bankruptcy as I understand it. I know a guy that went bankrupt and I was paid pennies on the dollar and the courts said I was paid.
Of course I do not know any of the folks owed, but I know if it was a bankruptcy, NO ONE got the total they were owed EXCEPT the IRS!
Now this is a personal opinion, if Trump's businesses went bankrupt, he is like the President OF THE USA in my eyes, the buck stopped with him.
Of course he did every thing legal, he used the laws. But if someone owes you $5000 and you are paid $5.00 the law says you are EVEN but somehow you just don't feel like that is right. BEEN THERE HAD THAT DONE TO ME.
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