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A Declaration by American Evangelicals Concerning Donald Tru
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Post philunderwood
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I think it's quite clear phil - he's pointing out that a bunch of you guys are all over Trump in every way possible & even to the point where you sign a petition & post the petition on Acts.
But where is your equal disgust with a woman who is a traitor & should be tried for treason IMO?
You knew what he meant!


No one is here trumpeting accolades toward HRC....so there is nothing to push back on. However, there are several here that are DJT supporters. The almost religiously zealous support of him is baffling to a minority of us.

I will shudder next January when a new President is sworn in with no regard for the oath of office or the book their hand rests upon...you will too. Reminds me of Israel wanting Saul.
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philunderwood wrote:
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I think it's quite clear phil - he's pointing out that a bunch of you guys are all over Trump in every way possible & even to the point where you sign a petition & post the petition on Acts.
But where is your equal disgust with a woman who is a traitor & should be tried for treason IMO?
You knew what he meant!


No one is here trumpeting accolades toward HRC....so there is nothing to push back on. However, there are several here that are DJT supporters. The almost religiously zealous support of him is baffling to a minority of us.

I will shudder next January when a new President is sworn in with no regard for the oath of office or the book their hand rests upon...you will too. Reminds me of Israel wanting Saul.


I think it's sad all the way around. Maybe we'll start praying "Thy Kingdom come" with fervency.
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Post Re: It always amazes me UncleJD
Dean Steenburgh wrote:

But where is your equal disgust with a woman who is a traitor & should be tried for treason IMO?!


I for one have completely equal disgust for both of them. I have said it time and time again. Because I cannot with the conscience of right and wrong that I believe God has given to me, give my endorsement to either of these candidates. But for the self-righteous who believe that Trump is God's man of the hour and if I dare not vote for him then I am some sort of reprobate, then I say "tough luck", hope it all works out for you, and thanks for your nomination, good job.
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Post Cojak
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This is the sort of thing that got us Obama the last 4 years, statements like "It would be a sin to vote for Mitt Romney he isn't a real Christian." So we got a Muslim leaning President. OUCH Evil or Very Mad
Sorry Phil, I usually like your stuff!


This is not my stuff. I am contributing to the discussion of the negative reality we all face as Jesus following Americans. We are without leadership in this arena. I do agree with the macro (not getting on the Trump train based on the collective evidence of his egomania and his narcissism) but the micro statements of bias are too evident to let this be my flag. In fact, my response to this publicly is, "I am grieved."


Sorry Phil, I thought you were posting an AMEN to the article. My Bad, Embarassed
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philunderwood wrote:
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I think it's quite clear phil - he's pointing out that a bunch of you guys are all over Trump in every way possible & even to the point where you sign a petition & post the petition on Acts.
But where is your equal disgust with a woman who is a traitor & should be tried for treason IMO?
You knew what he meant!


No one is here trumpeting accolades toward HRC....so there is nothing to push back on. However, there are several here that are DJT supporters. The almost religiously zealous support of him is baffling to a minority of us.

I will shudder next January when a new President is sworn in with no regard for the oath of office or the book their hand rests upon...you will too. Reminds me of Israel wanting Saul.


The Saul analogy came to my mind this week also.
As to the HRC comment all I can say is nobody on here seems to be going after her either but there are tons of people after Trump.
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Daniel 2:20-22 we know that God is the one who sets up the kingdoms of this world & America is not exempt to God making the decision as to who will lead us.

So if God wants Trump in there I think somebody is thinking that God has made a mistake???



Am I understanding you correctly: God wants me (Christains)to vote for Trump?

If that is what you are saying, my question would be, why? Can Trump not do as much damage to our nation as the decietful Hillary? Could God not change Hillary's heart as He could Trump's? Is there anything to hard for God?

Why do the evangelical churches seem so desperate?

Is God sitting on His glorious throne wringing His hands saying, "oh I hope they vote for __________ or I wont be able to do _________!" God is not desperate and neither are we!!!
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Reminds me of Israel wanting Saul.


I see this quote all the time - and I think it is the dumbest thing folks, that are supposed Bible readers, say.

Israel was going from God being their leader(with Judges administering justice and other leadership duties) to wanting Saul.

America is going from Obama being their leader to having to choose between Hillary and Donald.

Is Obama God? Really?
Can America choose God as their leader and not have a President anymore?

C'mon guys. Quit being ridiculous.

They are not remotely related.
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[quote="Nature Boy Florida"]
philunderwood wrote:
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Reminds me of Israel wanting Saul.


I see this quote all the time - and I think it is the dumbest thing folks, that are supposed Bible readers, say.

Israel was going from God being their leader(with Judges administering justice and other leadership duties) to wanting Saul.

America is going from Obama being their leader to having to choose between Hillary and Donald.

Is Obama God? Really?
Can America choose God as their leader and not have a President anymore?

C'mon guys. Quit being ridiculous.

They are not remotely related.


Finally some sanity on this board.
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[quote="Nature Boy Florida"]
philunderwood wrote:
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Reminds me of Israel wanting Saul.


I see this quote all the time - and I think it is the dumbest thing folks, that are supposed Bible readers, say.

Israel was going from God being their leader(with Judges administering justice and other leadership duties) to wanting Saul.

America is going from Obama being their leader to having to choose between Hillary and Donald.

Is Obama God? Really?
Can America choose God as their leader and not have a President anymore?

C'mon guys. Quit being ridiculous.

They are not remotely related.
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Post Methocostal
Perhaps it was God's will to give us this awful choice so we would trust in Him. However, I must also say "God help me in my unbelief".

Perhaps through trial and tribulation this nation will be on their knees in true repentence and prayer for revival.

diakoneo wrote:
Dean Steenburgh wrote:
Daniel 2:20-22 we know that God is the one who sets up the kingdoms of this world & America is not exempt to God making the decision as to who will lead us.

So if God wants Trump in there I think somebody is thinking that God has made a mistake???



Am I understanding you correctly: God wants me (Christains)to vote for Trump?

If that is what you are saying, my question would be, why? Can Trump not do as much damage to our nation as the decietful Hillary? Could God not change Hillary's heart as He could Trump's? Is there anything to hard for God?

Why do the evangelical churches seem so desperate?

Is God sitting on His glorious throne wringing His hands saying, "oh I hope they vote for __________ or I wont be able to do _________!" God is not desperate and neither are we!!!
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