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Post Farewell. For real. This has gone too far. mytimewillcome
Thanks to all my friends I've made and known for the many years I've been a part of this board.

I served my time in ban-land for something that was funny. Now, my post about the water park has been removed and I have been scolded via private message by Doyle.

This is the end for me. I cannot continue to post.

It's been fun.

MyTime out <mic drop>
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Post Cojak
I really thought that one was funny! Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused
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Post Nature Boy Florida
I missed it.
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Post bradfreeman
Pick a different hill to die on.
This board desperately needs the diversity you bring...whether it knows it or not.

Hang in there.
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Post Funny is not the same as acceptable doyle
The pool pic was funny. Nobody is disputing that, but funny is not the same as being acceptable. The comments about "brown stuff floating in the water,"(not funny) helped make the decision to delete the post, easier.

As I shared personally with "mytime," I'm former military so there are few things I have not heard. There is no claim here that any of us, especially me, are perfect, but we do have an idea of what kind of post we want on the board and what kind we do not.

Poster "mytime" did not, as he put it, "Spend time in ban-land for something funny." The ban was made by Moderators who felt what was posted (intended or not) had salacious overtones. I felt they made the right call.

I deleted the most recent post but did not institute a ban. The door to mytime posting remains open as long as he is open to listening to the advice of those who moderate the board. Prior to his most recent post, I wrote him a kind personal note and shared that I was deleting the post and shared why.

Of interesting note, one of the disagreements with the decision, has come from someone who was angry that we did not allow more "diversity" on the board. This from someone who I have continued to allow on the board in spite of his diverse and controversial views. No other poster in the history of the board has had more requests from viewers for us to ban.

Some viewers have strongly let me know that in that case, they feel I have been too diverse. Some have left because I did not ban that more diverse poster. Some days around here it's just like pastoring. There are some days when those you didn't help are upset, and those you did, are too Smile.

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Post Re: Funny is not the same as acceptable bradfreeman
doyle wrote:
Of interesting note, one of the disagreements with the decision, has come from someone who was angry that we did not allow more "diversity" on the board. This from someone who I have continued to allow on the board in spite of his diverse and controversial views. No other poster in the history of the board has had more requests from viewers for us to ban.

Some viewers have strongly let me know that in that case, they feel I have been too diverse. Some have left because I did not ban that more diverse poster. Some days around here it's just like pastoring. There are some days when those you didn't help are upset, and those you did, are too Smile.

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I hope you are not referring to me...but it appears you are. Let me be clearER.

I did NOT disagree with any decision you have made with regard to MTWC at ANY time.

I am unaware of and did not read EITHER post that you made a decision on.

I am NOT angry with any decision you have made with regard to MTWC or any of his posts at any time.

I am simply advising MTWC not to overreact.

You sure read a LOT into my post. Laughing
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Post Yes Brad, the reference was to you doyle
In spite of the major backlash for allowing your continued use of the board, my feeling at the time was that possibly it would help viewers learn to make a defense against doctrines with which they may disagree.

Right or wrong, I made an intentional decision to allow your continuing on the board. So yes, it did come as a surprise to see your insinuation that we have not been diverse enough.

This is your quote to mytime: "This board desperately needs the diversity you bring...whether it knows it or not."

What we do know, is that the word "diversity" is not necessarily a good one. My concern is not about diversity that anyone, including you or mytime supposidly brings to the board. My concern was and is that viewers could use it to strengthen their own belief system.

As far as mytime is concerned, it is now his call as to whether he wants to continue here or not. To do so, means he is open to guidance provided by those who Moderate the board. If not, we wish him well and appreciate any good posts he has made.

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Post Re: Funny is not the same as acceptable Patrick Harris
doyle wrote:
The pool pic was funny. Nobody is disputing that, but funny is not the same as being acceptable. The comments about "brown stuff floating in the water,"(not funny) helped make the decision to delete the post, easier.

As I shared personally with "mytime," I'm former military so there are few things I have not heard. There is no claim here that any of us, especially me, are perfect, but we do have an idea of what kind of post we want on the board and what kind we do not.

Poster "mytime" did not, as he put it, "Spend time in ban-land for something funny." The ban was made by Moderators who felt what was posted (intended or not) had salacious overtones. I felt they made the right call.

I deleted the most recent post but did not institute a ban. The door to mytime posting remains open as long as he is open to listening to the advice of those who moderate the board. Prior to his most recent post, I wrote him a kind personal note and shared that I was deleting the post and shared why.

Of interesting note, one of the disagreements with the decision, has come from someone who was angry that we did not allow more "diversity" on the board. This from someone who I have continued to allow on the board in spite of his diverse and controversial views. No other poster in the history of the board has had more requests from viewers for us to ban.

Some viewers have strongly let me know that in that case, they feel I have been too diverse. Some have left because I did not ban that more diverse poster. Some days around here it's just like pastoring. There are some days when those you didn't help are upset, and those you did, are too Smile.

Doyle


Perhaps if the board wasn't as arbitrary in their decisions it wouldn't be an issue.

In 8 years on this board I've seen worse comments and pics that didn't get removed.
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Post Nature Boy Florida
See you later mytime.



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Post Context doyle
Well, as you know Patrick, almost everything in life comes with a perspective and a context. Such is the case here. Has there been a previous incident? Is there behind-the-scenes communication or not? Is the person open to the perspective of those who administer the board?

It is not unusual for those who are called upon to make decisions, to have a a different perspective. What is going on in a larger sense; words or events surrounding the situation?

It is your perspective that things posted at some time previously in the past 17 years of ACTS, in your opinion, were worse. Other viewers may or may not agree.

We have no worse, more worse, most worse categories. It's my understanding that one of our Administrators had asked several times for the poster to cooperate but without getting a positive reply. So, the Administrator put in a ban until things could be worked out.

When the situation was brought to me, I made contact with the poster several times personally and also worked to get him reinstated. As much as is possible, I like to give people another chance. The poster in question is not banned at this time. The door for him to post is still open, but we are not reluctant to ask a poster to work with us.

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doyle wrote:
Well, as you know Patrick, almost everything in life comes with a perspective and a context. Such is the case here. Has there been a previous incident? Is there behind-the-scenes communication or not? Is the person open to the perspective of those who administer the board?

It is not unusual for those who are called upon to make decisions, to have a a different perspective. What is going on in a larger sense; words or events surrounding the situation?

It is your perspective that things posted at some time previously in the past 17 years of ACTS, in your opinion, were worse. Other viewers may or may not agree.

We have no worse, more worse, most worse categories. It's my understanding that one of our Administrators had asked several times for the poster to cooperate but without getting a positive reply. So, the Administrator put in a ban until things could be worked out.

When the situation was brought to me, I made contact with the poster several times personally and also worked to get him reinstated. As much as is possible, I like to give people another chance. The poster in question is not banned at this time. The door for him to post is still open, but we are not reluctant to ask a poster to work with us.

Doyle


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Post Old Time Country Preacher
The ole timer ain't never in 15+ years been banned.

Some folk wanted him banned so they would not be challenged for their error.

Others woulda loved a ban cause they could not outwit the pure wit of the outwitter hisself.

A few wanted a ban cause the ole timer would not support their independent leanings.

An yet others, knowing the ole timer will never lay to rest, not as long as preachers is engaging in such behavior, the issue of slipshod, 2-bit, unaccredited, valueless academic degrees--specially docterates.

So, to all posters, make shore your posts is both funny and acceptable.
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Post bonnie knox
Ole Timer, ya sorta remind me a that feller what does them Dos Equis advertisements. You could say, "I ain't always funny, but when I am, I make sure hit's aseptable." [Insert Acts Pun Here]
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Post Re: Yes Brad, the reference was to you bradfreeman
doyle wrote:
What we do know, is that the word "diversity" is not necessarily a good one.

Doyle


You do deserve credit for tolerating my presence...even if it is tolerated as an exterminator would tolerate a roach in a fish bowl so that the other exterminators can study how best to kill the roach. You do deserve credit for overcoming your inclination that "diversity" is not necessarily good.

Here are a few scriptures on the beautiful diversity in the body of Christ:

1 Cor. 12:4 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord. 6 There are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons.

1 Cor. 12:12 For even as the body is one and yet has many members, and all the members of the body, though they are many, are one body, so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. 14 For the body is not one member, but many.

Rom 12:14 Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. 2 One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only. 3 The one who eats is not to regard with contempt the one who does not eat, and the one who does not eat is not to judge the one who eats, for God has accepted him. 4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

I'm sure I'm not the only roach in the bowl.
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I'm sure I'm not the only roach in the bowl.


I think we could sing that to Pink Floyd's "Just Another Brick in the Wall."

"Just another roach in the bowl..."
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I'm sure I'm not the only roach in the bowl.


I think we could sing that to Pink Floyd's "Just Another Brick in the Wall."

"Just another roach in the bowl..."


Or the other Floyd song "We're just two roaches swimming in a fish bowl, year after year"
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Post Brad doyle
Brother Brad, at no time ever have I considered you to be a roach or a reproach. I believe you to be a completely serious and dedicated man of faith. That does not mean I agree with some of your theories and or perspectives on Scripture.

However, what I was attempting to convey, and evidently not so well, was that we have allowed people with different perspectives to use the board. So it was surprising to see a post from someone who has used the board to share their diverse views, accuse us of not being diverse.

The board has been open for you to share your heart. But surely you know that many of our viewers have not been happy about that.

My feeling was that as they considered and possibly rebutted some of your presentations, it would strengthen them in their belief. Not sure, but maybe you have also learned some things from your fellow posters. I hope so, because almost nobody likes someone with a know-it-all approach.

Brad, I still believe you have a heart for God and for good. I would imagine that says more about you than all the writings you could ever do, but people with a different perspective, can receive a hostile response from those who disagree. However, sincerity is in itself not the same as being correct. There have been many people who have been sincerely wrong.

Sadly, there ain't no bowl round here. It's a barrel and at some time or another, all of us have been at the bottom of it. Wasn't there a Gospel song that included the words "I was looking up from the bottom when He shined His light down on me?" I remember the line but not the name of the song.

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Post Doyle Change Agent
Brad is one of my favorite people on this board. He has great faith, unlike some that are faith killers. Laughing Acts Enthusiast
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Brad is one of my favorite people on this board. He has great faith, unlike some that are faith killers. Laughing


Brad is one my favorite as well, not because I agree with him all of the time, but because he takes a beating and plugs ahead exhibiting long suffering.
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