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bradfreeman |
Psalm 103:2 Bless the Lord, O my soul, And forget not all His benefits: 3 Who forgives all your iniquities, Who heals all your diseases, 4 Who redeems your life from destruction, Who crowns you with lovingkindness and tender mercies, 5 Who satisfies your mouth with good things, So that your youth is renewed like the eagle's.
God certainly has power to heal "all your diseases".
When is it God's will to heal?
When is it not God's will to heal?
Glib answers are fun, but it would be nice to consider the scripture too.
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Every single person who came to Jesus for healing...was healed.
Some people--a chosen few, you might say--Jesus WENT TO to heal. But multitudes CAME TO Him for healing...and every single person was healed.
We have no record of a single person coming to Jesus for healing and not being healed.
I don't pretend to know exactly why that doesn't happen all the time for us...unless it is that we are not really "getting to" Jesus, though we are sincere and trying to. Thankfully, He is still merciful. |
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wayne |
I really wish I knew the answer to that. I am dealing with a great man in my church whose son overdosed this last weekend and today, we will most likely pull the plug unless God performs a miracle.
I have learned to pray for God's will to be done. I'll tell Him what I want but will submit to His will in all situations. My God has a plan and He knows what He is doing. |
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Aaron Scott |
Believing in divine healing can create deep hurt and pain. In fact, there might even be situations where it would have been better to NOT believe in divine healing.
And yet I believe it is true.
When my uncle died, the family was crushed. He was the youngest of the brothers, we had prayed and fasted, seeking divine healing. When it did not come, not only were we hurt at the loss, but we were weighed upon by the fact that divine healing had not come through (at least in the way we expected).
Many precious people have suffered and died, all while seeking divine healing. The hope of such a miracle sets our hearts aflutter...but then, if it does not come to pass, we are deeply hurt and perhaps a bit disillusioned.
If we didn't believe in divine healing, no doubt we would eventually learn to resign ourselves to impending death. We perhaps could bear it more easily. But when we know that God COULD have healed, yet for some reason did not, it adds an additional weight to our hearts.
But although I think this is the case, I cannot help but believe that God will heal when we can truly touch Him in faith. He also heals at other times, but I believe He is OBLIGATED to heal when we touch Him by faith? Why? Because He has PROMISED that the prayer of faith will raise the sick!
We are not at all "commanding" God to do this or that. Rather, we are taking advantage of what HE promised.
It happens far too infrequently, but divine healing is still real. |
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11/26/13 8:57 am
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| I believe the reason many people are not healed is simply because we don't have faith. The church ( Christians )today operate in the flesh realm. Also, our prayer life is so weak it does not move God to operate. We have a weak prayer life, so our faith is weak. We operate in common faith not faith in God.b |
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11/26/13 9:28 am
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Everytime I hear someone say "You're not healed because you just did not have enough faith" I want to punch someone in the mouth.
Nothing says God does not care about someone who is sick more then some well meaning "jackal" making that statement. |
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11/26/13 9:47 am
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Nature Boy Florida |
| Aaron Scott wrote: | Every single person who came to Jesus for healing...was healed.
Some people--a chosen few, you might say--Jesus WENT TO to heal. But multitudes CAME TO Him for healing...and every single person was healed.
We have no record of a single person coming to Jesus for healing and not being healed.
I don't pretend to know exactly why that doesn't happen all the time for us...unless it is that we are not really "getting to" Jesus, though we are sincere and trying to. Thankfully, He is still merciful. |
Agree with this.
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Nature Boy Florida |
| Patrick Harris wrote: | Everytime I hear someone say "You're not healed because you just did not have enough faith" I want to punch someone in the mouth.
Nothing says God does not care about someone who is sick more then some well meaning "jackal" making that statement. |
Agree with this.
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| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | | Patrick Harris wrote: | Everytime I hear someone say "You're not healed because you just did not have enough faith" I want to punch someone in the mouth.
Nothing says God does not care about someone who is sick more then some well meaning "jackal" making that statement. |
Agree with this. |
Is there not a sickness unto death?
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Ask Paul why he wasn't healed. It had nothing to do with his faith. |
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11/26/13 11:13 am
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Old Time Country Preacher |
So folk has got enuff faith to take medicine, go to the hospital, go to the doctor, but aint got faith to be healed?
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11/26/13 11:16 am
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Aaron Scott |
OTCP, you assume that he needed a healing.
Many do NOT assume that, but that it was some other struggle he was dealing with. |
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11/26/13 11:17 am
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Cojak |
| Aaron Scott wrote: | Believing in divine healing can create deep hurt and pain. In fact, there might even be situations where it would have been better to NOT believe in divine healing.
And yet I believe it is true.
When my uncle died, the family was crushed. He was the youngest of the brothers, we had prayed and fasted, seeking divine healing. When it did not come, not only were we hurt at the loss, but we were weighed upon by the fact that divine healing had not come through (at least in the way we expected).
Many precious people have suffered and died, all while seeking divine healing. The hope of such a miracle sets our hearts aflutter...but then, if it does not come to pass, we are deeply hurt and perhaps a bit disillusioned.
If we didn't believe in divine healing, no doubt we would eventually learn to resign ourselves to impending death. We perhaps could bear it more easily. But when we know that God COULD have healed, yet for some reason did not, it adds an additional weight to our hearts.
But although I think this is the case, I cannot help but believe that God will heal when we can truly touch Him in faith. He also heals at other times, but I believe He is OBLIGATED to heal when we touch Him by faith? Why? Because He has PROMISED that the prayer of faith will raise the sick!
We are not at all "commanding" God to do this or that. Rather, we are taking advantage of what HE promised.
It happens far too infrequently, but divine healing is still real. |
A well stated comment and I can agree with it. I cannot produce any scripture to 'factually' back up my feelings, but you have done well expressing how I feel.
In my lifetime I have ALWAYS worried about the man who prays DEMANDING the Lord to HONOR His Word. That was always scary to me.
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Old Time Country Preacher |
| Aaron Scott wrote: |
We have no record of a single person coming to Jesus for healing and not being healed. |
We have no record that Jesus ever went to the bathroom, but we know he did. John said if everthing was wrote, the world cound't contain the books. Just cause they aint no record of it don't mean a doctrine can be built that God 100% of the time physically heals in this life. |
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Cojak |
| bradfreeman wrote: | Psalm 103:2 Bless the Lord, O my soul, And forget not all His benefits: 3 Who forgives all your iniquities, Who heals all your diseases, 4 Who redeems your life from destruction, Who crowns you with lovingkindness and tender mercies, 5 Who satisfies your mouth with good things, So that your youth is renewed like the eagle's.
God certainly has power to heal "all your diseases".
When is it God's will to heal?
When is it not God's will to heal?
Glib answers are fun, but it would be nice to consider the scripture too. |
Very good and thought provoking post, Thanks Brad. I like reading the comments on this and seeing the 'opinions'. 
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| Aaron Scott wrote: | OTCP, you assume that he needed a healing.
Many do NOT assume that, but that it was some other struggle he was dealing with. |
Ummm, I guess "in his flesh" didn't mean in his flesh. That aint assumption. |
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11/26/13 11:27 am
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Aaron Scott |
Indeed, "in his flesh" does not mean necessarily mean sickness.
"In the flesh" could have been temptation. It was a "messenger of SATAN," after all. |
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