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Re: Amalgamations

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Amagamations

Friendly Face Posts: 484 **5/11/12 9:06 am**

Bonnie knox, How could you bring a a church in to the COGand them not know what their doing? If you read the Faith News you will see it built out of relationship and his office take whatever time that the Independent Church needs along with the State Overseer and walks them thru the process as to property all of the large churches and pastors understand our current policy and have no problems with it. Also, why can't folks just celebrate the fact that these are additional light houses of hope that have joined our team and the carrying out a missional mandate to win the lost! Whatsoever, this thread was about Bill Claypoole because it all started because of the FaithNews report period!

Amalgamation did not fail...

Acts-celerater Posts: 881 **5/11/12 9:33 am**

at the last assembly. We have always welcomed new congregations into COG with the understanding they would be COG and not something else. What failed at the alst assembly was a measure that would allow churches to "affiliate or assocated" with COG, but not be COG. In other words, an idenpendent church could be included in conferences, camp-meetings etc. thier pastros may or may not be credentialed in COG and their members may or may not be COG members. I am unsure what the financial arrangments were.

We will always accept a church that is willing to follow our rules and that was not the measure that was defeated.
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[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 **5/11/12 9:41 am**

Re: Amalgamation did not fail...

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 **5/11/12 9:44 am**

Amalgamations

Friendly Face Posts: 484 **5/11/12 10:17 am**

Bonnie Knox you missed it it again in this proces the church the pastor and it's leaders are all told the odds and outs of coming into the church .However Cleveland Tennessee does not own their property it's held in trust the state would be the only one to seize their property at the church becomes nonexistent and there's nobody there to restart the church then we are acquired a liability according to the minutes so you were wrong and you're assumption. Also, that is perceived by these congregations as a protection rather than a problem. However, according to the minutes they have five years to decide on that and as to the independent church not being a part of the team before they come to church of God that's crazy that statement was not meant that way because they are validated by God regardless but they have joined us one tributary of the river of God to reach the lost through global network all the Church of God, I'm done this ministry is about those churches that want to be apart of the COG not criticize it they feel this was Gods direction through a process that can be six months to two to four years or beyond if needed!

Affiliations

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1449 **5/11/12 11:32 am**

Why did the affiliate church issue come up at the last GA? If is is being brought up again it must have been tabled instead of voted down. Its somewhat funny that there is another vote at the GA on this when it is already being done. Does a vote at the GA mean anything? Will affiliation stop if it is voted down again? Have any of the churches that have joined been given any special deals?

I am for church affiliations, but I have many unanswered questions about why we vote on something after the fact when are already doing it.

Re: Affiliations

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Amalgamation

Friendly Face Posts: 484 **5/11/12 4:05 pm**

Thats why you have up to five years to decide that and by the who enter a covenant with a movement or person with a desire for an out in the first place. The process is trust, process, and relationship built over a seven year period of weekly connections with The independent church. Also, who do you want to have a building with no people and who wants a dishonest pastor or a family of deacons or the masons or a skating rink or the church that paid for it and that's what the COG protects for these independent Chuches! Again, for the last time Amalgamation Office meets with Pastor and Church just like the Overseer and they go over it all and out of a relationship and covenant it works out no deception on our part! As to chambers the Amagamstions department had nothing to do with that it was an established COG Church period! Call the USA Office and give more of the details if you are that concerned about actions that have been through our accountability proces it's called integrity and that's the only way to Gods work!

Bonnie...

Acts-celerater Posts: 627 **5/11/12 9:58 pm**

Bonnie, do you Pastor?
Will you be at the Assembly? I doubt it.

I was just wondering because you said, "But the office is there and ready in case we approve them"

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Acts-celerater Posts: 627 **5/11/12 10:01 pm**

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[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 **5/11/12 10:10 pm**

Oh, my, the we-them syndrome.

I am a member in good standing of the Church of God which means I'm fully eligible to participate in the General Assembly which is the highest governing body of the Church of God. If the pastors approve of affiliations, it will still have to be approved by the General Assembly.
But sometimes I say "we" when I refer to the Church of God in general even if it's not something I'm personally involved in.

Not to worry, though. There is always someone on Acts such as Ernie, wayne, Grandpa Cleland, or even doyle reminding me that since I'm not a minister I have a different perspective.

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Truman Here

Acts Enthusiast Posts: 1073 **5/13/12 8:39 am**

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bonnie knox wrote:

Office of Amalgamations and Affilations

Hey, DOC Posts: 54 **5/13/12 7:18 pm**

I am so glad for the updated explanation as to what Bill Claypoole has been able to acomplish with his project of bringing Churches into the Church of God. 5,000 Members and $1,000,000.00 TOT, $500,000.00 to State and $500,000.00 to Gen. Hdq is awesome.
Bill Claypoole should be on the Executive Committee. We need someone with that kind of connection, vision and ability on our Executive Committee. That would take care of Sec., Office needs.