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[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 **10/12/13 4:12 pm**

Over a third of all live births in the US are to unwed mothers. It's not at all rare. It doesn't have to be a learned behaviour or a generationally passed on thing. (It pretty much will happen naturally unless society or religion pressures people into marrying first.)

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Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 **10/12/13 8:07 pm**

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Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5923 **10/12/13 11:43 pm**

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **10/13/13 12:05 am**

If we agree that 'generational curses' have no legitimacy for us today under the New Covenant, we are still left wondering precisely what it meant for God to visit the sins of the fathers down the generations, and how this would materially differ from the societal ills (or curses) we see in families such as child abuse, alcoholism, illegitimacy, and so forth.

What do you think it meant that God would visit the iniquity of the fathers down the generations as the Law of Moses said?

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Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 **10/13/13 12:40 am**

Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 **10/13/13 12:45 am**

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **10/13/13 2:08 am**

While I agree we must consider all the relevant passages pertaining to a particular issue in order to obtain a balanced view, pointing that rather obvious fact out really does not answer the question of what precisely the original statement meant when Moses was inspired of God to write it.

It would seem that with these other passages kept in mind, that at least the usual consequence of sin (death) is not directly involved in God's visiting of the sins of the fathers to their sons.

Hon. Dr. in Acts-celeratology Posts: 5923 **10/13/13 2:17 am**

Yes, OTCP, that is what I was referring to...the whole general statement. Of course nothing is more powerful than the blood of Jesus! I've never heard anyone intimate that in speaking of generational curses. But whatever...y'all are entitled to believe whatever you want to believe.

QW - I would think that scripture is referring to an instance such as Ahab, where God told him He was going to bring judgment on him because of his great wickedness. Ahab put on sackcloth and ashes and went about meekly, and God noticed it. He told Elijah to tell him because of that, He would not bring judgment during his generation upon Israel but during the time of his sons' reign. When sin reaches a certain point, judgment is required, but because Ahab repented (somewhat), God showed him mercy but promised to send judgment later. The judgment happened during his sons' reign (coming down to the next generation.) This is not a curse, but simply God's fulfilling what He promised.
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Acts-pert Poster Posts: 15570 **10/13/13 7:51 am**

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Acts-celerater Posts: 651 **10/13/13 9:59 pm**

My view of generational curses is similar to that of Bishop Wills. Smile

I think scriptures like Exodus 34:7 speak of sins that are passed down. The children don't bear the guilt of their parents sins. But the sin(e.g the same type of sin) of the parents are likely to be replicated in the lives of their children. The children are likely to follow in their parents footsteps. And the children will be guilty of following after them and committing the same type of sin. God wants His children to know that parents have a powerful influence over the way the children live their lives. It's seen many times in Israel's history. But exceptions to this are also noted. They don't have to repeat their parent's sin.
This fits with Ezekiel 18:1-4 and Deuteronomy 24:16, etc. If I'm not mistaken, these scriptures explain the ones about punishing the children for the sins of their fathers. The children will be punished for their own sin but it will be the sin that was "modeled" and "passed down", so to speak.
With this in view, it could be called a curse because of the indelible mark left on the children by their parents.
It seems to me that it could be spiritual in nature if it is a sin that opens them up to demonic possession/oppression/influence.
By the way, I also think some preachers misinterpret these scriptures.
Anyway, this is the way I understand the above passages.

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 **10/13/13 10:19 pm**

Acts-celerater Posts: 651 **10/13/13 10:38 pm**

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 **10/13/13 10:40 pm**

An example would be Daniel or the 3 Hebrew children in exile because of the sins of their "fathers."

Acts-celerater Posts: 651 **10/13/13 10:56 pm**

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 14803 **10/13/13 11:08 pm**

Leviticus 26
18 And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.

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32 And I will bring the land into desolation: and your enemies which dwell therein shall be astonished at it.

33 And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste.

34 Then shall the land enjoy her sabbaths, as long as it lieth desolate, and ye be in your enemies' land; even then shall the land rest, and enjoy her sabbaths.

2 Chronicles 36
20 And them that had escaped from the sword carried he away to Babylon; where they were servants to him and his sons until the reign of the kingdom of Persia:

21 To fulfil the word of the Lord by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had enjoyed her sabbaths: for as long as she lay desolate she kept sabbath, to fulfil threescore and ten years.