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Post If you were blind... bradfreeman
THE BLIND HAVE NO SIN

"Those of the Pharisees who were with Him heard these things and said to Him, “We are not blind too, are we?” Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, ‘We see,’ your sin remains." Jn 9:40,41

Unbelief is a sin you do not have, cannot have, until you see the Father in the word of Christ, the works of Christ.

"Jesus said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works. Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves." Jn 14:9-11

Jesus came to a world where "no one has seen God at any time" to give recovery of sight to the blind...to explain the Father and show us the Father so we could see the Father and believe (Jn 1:18).

"If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin. He who hates Me hates My Father also. If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would not have sin; but now they have both seen and hated Me and My Father as well." Jn. 14:22-24

There is a sin you "would not have" if Jesus hadn't "spoken" and "done among them the works which no one else did". He spoke and worked, showed us the words and works of the Father, so we would see Him and believe.

The sin you have when you "have both seen and hated" Jesus and His Father is unbelief.

If you were blind, you have no sin.
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Post Old Indian... Aaron Scott
And old Indian asked a missionary, "If you had not told me these things were wrong, they would not be sins?"

"That's right," said the missionary.

"Then why did you tell me?"
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Post Re: Old Indian... c6thplayer1
Aaron Scott wrote:
And old Indian asked a missionary, "If you had not told me these things were wrong, they would not be sins?"

"That's right," said the missionary.

"Then why did you tell me?"


Interesting Aaron ..
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Unfortunately (for those who might seek a loophole), there is still the law in our hearts that Romans speaks of. It is the law for those without the law.

It may not be SIN in the most literal sense, but God punished Cain even though there was no law then.

It's hard to figure, tell you the truth.
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Post Re: c6th... bradfreeman
Aaron Scott wrote:
Unfortunately (for those who might seek a loophole), there is still the law in our hearts that Romans speaks of. It is the law for those without the law.

It may not be SIN in the most literal sense, but God punished Cain even though there was no law then.

It's hard to figure, tell you the truth.


God didn't punish Cain. He just did not regard his sacrifice.
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Post bonnie knox
Maybe Aaron is referring to Cain's murder and not his offering? [Insert Acts Pun Here]
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Post Nature Boy Florida
Had a law regarding murder been given to Cain?
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bonnie knox wrote:
Maybe Aaron is referring to Cain's murder and not his offering?


Gen 4:11 Now you are cursed from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you cultivate the ground, it will no longer yield its strength to you; you will be a vagrant and a wanderer on the earth.” 13 Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is too great to bear! 14 Behold, You have driven me this day from the face of the ground; and from Your face I will be hidden, and I will be a vagrant and a wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.” 15 So the Lord said to him, “Therefore whoever kills Cain, vengeance will be taken on him sevenfold.” And the Lord appointed a sign for Cain, so that no one finding him would slay him.

It appears the ground cursed Cain. At any rate, he didn't get "an eye for an eye" treatment from God. God specifically spared him from his fear of being killed.
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Post bonnie knox
Agreed that he did not get the eye for an eye punishment. However, I'm reading "cursed from the ground" not as "cursed BY the ground" but essentially as cursed with respect to your interaction with the ground.
NIV reads this way:
"Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand."
Cain's response shows him to understand the punishment as being from God:
"Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid;"
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