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Dave Dorsey |
| So far, my "WWAD" bracelet has served my very well. I look at it and whatever Aaron would do, I just do the opposite. |
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4/21/19 6:48 pm
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Nature Boy Florida |
| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | So far, my "WWAD" bracelet has served my very well. I look at it and whatever Aaron would do, I just do the opposite. |
NO one could argue with this Socratic level logic. It ALWAYS works.
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4/22/19 6:33 am
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UncleJD |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | This is so dumb on so many levels.
Cory Booker gets Dave's vote.
Dave says Trump likely to get us into war...when he has clearly shown his tendency to fight less than previous Presidents.
And Trump has folks around him that know when he is blowing off steam and when he is serious and act accordingly....which gives me more confidence than less.
Cory Booker. C'mon man. |
Can't help but agree here. Anyone who thinks Trump is more likely to go to war than any other candidate from either party has let their TDS overshadow everything that has ever been known about Trump (he's always been a libertarian when it comes to war). A Bush, Obama, or Clinton wouldn't have been able to make it 2 months without escalating wars and opening new fronts. That's historical fact. With Trump we have seen mostly the opposite, some tough trade talk, but mostly attempts to buddy-up to the enemy. I don't like the NK thing for the most part, but people who don't have to take TDS meds to get through the day have to admit that Trump has at least made more progress with them than ANYONE else ever did. Again, Trump wasn't my choice, I didn't want him to win the primary, but he did and that's that. Yeah he's spending WAY too much, but he isn't on an Obama pace yet. And Obama will look like an old white conservative compared to any of these new-green-deal wacko's lined up to take him down. |
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4/22/19 9:01 am
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Dave Dorsey |
| Eddie Robbins wrote: | | Whataboutism. Everything that is said, the response is “what about______†|
Yup. RS is the only one who addressed the article on its merits. I don't agree with his take, but I appreciate him engaging with the actual argument.
UncleJD/NBF came close but missed the point and responded to an argument the post was not making. The post was not about a concern that Trump would enter into war, but that near-peer adversaries would take advantage of the chaos of his administration to create a global conflict that the US could not avoid. Trump's tendencies to shy away from foreign policy engagements and "buddy up" to global adversaries are just more qualities for these powers to take advantage of. |
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4/22/19 9:57 am
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UncleJD |
| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | Eddie Robbins wrote: | | Whataboutism. Everything that is said, the response is “what about______†|
Yup. RS is the only one who addressed the article on its merits. I don't agree with his take, but I appreciate him engaging with the actual argument.
UncleJD/NBF came close but missed the point and responded to an argument the post was not making. The post was not about a concern that Trump would enter into war, but that near-peer adversaries would take advantage of the chaos of his administration to create a global conflict that the US could not avoid. Trump's tendencies to shy away from foreign policy engagements and "buddy up" to global adversaries are just more qualities for these powers to take advantage of. |
Yeah, sorry one more article from never-Trumpers, I admit, I just couldn't muster the energy again. So you think he's emboldening the enemy? Sorta like Obama on his "America is terrible" world tour? Or his "Hey Iran, here's all the money you need to build your Nukes"? Or 19 out of 20 dem candidates who say "lets not have a border at all and see how that works out for national security" ? |
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4/22/19 10:12 am
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Dave Dorsey |
Nope, that's not what I'm saying at all. The article (and my argument) has nothing to do with Trump creating or precipitating anything.
If you can't muster the energy that's cool, but I'm not sure why you'd respond at all if that's the case. |
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4/22/19 10:20 am
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UncleJD |
| Dave Dorsey wrote: | Nope, that's not what I'm saying at all. The article (and my argument) has nothing to do with Trump creating or precipitating anything.
If you can't muster the energy that's cool, but I'm not sure why you'd respond at all if that's the case. |
I'm responding based on the statements made in the thread. You didn't just post a link Dave, you and others made comments. For instance, the last two comments you've made don't agree with each other. | Quote: | | that near-peer adversaries would take advantage of the chaos of his administration to create a global conflict |
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| Quote: | | has nothing to do with Trump creating or precipitating anything |
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4/22/19 10:52 am
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Dave Dorsey |
| what's the subject of the sentence you quoted, JD? who's the noun doing the creating? |
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4/22/19 10:54 am
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Nature Boy Florida |
C'mon Dave.
You indicating any Democrat is better than Trump is pretty ridiculous - I just assumed you had missed your meds.
As for that pablum from the article - a brief skim is the best you are going to get from me on that. Sorry if I missed his salient point. The ones I did read were pretty lame.
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4/22/19 11:12 am
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UncleJD |
| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | what's the subject of the sentence you quoted, JD? who's the noun doing the creating? |
The chaos of an administration I suppose. As if the CERTAINTY of any of the democrats from Obama to Sanders to the 20+ radicals screaming for open-borders and giving money to Iran is somehow better. At BEST its a wash (and its not), so then you have to look at intent, then morals, then economy. Trump is better than ANY of them, for the world, for America, and most of all, for unborn babies. |
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4/22/19 12:01 pm
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Dave Dorsey |
| UncleJD wrote: | | The chaos of an administration I suppose. |
no. the subject of the sentence is America's near-peer adversaries. these adversaries are always looking for any advantage they can seize, regardless of who is president and regardless of what that president is doing. the thrust of the argument is that this administration is uniquely incapable of responding to their belligerence in a functional way. |
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4/22/19 12:33 pm
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Nature Boy Florida |
| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | UncleJD wrote: | | The chaos of an administration I suppose. |
no. the subject of the sentence is America's near-peer adversaries. these adversaries are always looking for any advantage they can seize, regardless of who is president and regardless of what that president is doing. the thrust of the argument is that this administration is uniquely incapable of responding to their belligerence in a functional way. |
Ah, I see.
Wasn't Reagan thought of as being reckless and crazy by our enemies?
Perhaps what you see as a deficiency may actually be an advantage.
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4/22/19 12:45 pm
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Dave Dorsey |
| Nature Boy Florida wrote: | | Perhaps what you see as a deficiency may actually be an advantage. |
maybe.
we might get a chance to find out. |
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4/22/19 1:54 pm
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diakoneo |
Well I never thought I would be a pro Trump guy! Never! 3 years ago I could not stand the man... seriously. But the media and the never Trumpers have some how changed me and turned me to his side
One reason I didn't like him was that he WAS the New York City media darling. I am talking about since the 1980s...for forty years the media was constantly slobbering all over him. He would toot his horn and the media would dance a jig ☺ï¸. Dave, Eddie and Krista and the other never Trumpers on here, check the record and ask yourself the question, how could a man turn from a hero to a goat in the eyes of something as liberally despicable as the mainstream news media? I am not talking about a conspiracy, they are who they are...mostly socialist liberals who want to push an agenda. They prove it again and again by slanting the news rather than reporting it...but I am not telling you something you don't already know, so... |
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4/22/19 10:39 pm
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Resident Skeptic |
| diakoneo wrote: | Well I never thought I would be a pro Trump guy! Never! 3 years ago I could not stand the man... seriously. But the media and the never Trumpers have some how changed me and turned me to his side
One reason I didn't like him was that he WAS the New York City media darling. I am talking about since the 1980s...for forty years the media was constantly slobbering all over him. He would toot his horn and the media would dance a jig ☺ï¸. Dave, Eddie and Krista and the other never Trumpers on here, check the record and ask yourself the question, how could a man turn from a hero to a goat in the eyes of something as liberally despicable as the mainstream news media? I am not talking about a conspiracy, they are who they are...mostly socialist liberals who want to push an agenda. They prove it again and again by slanting the news rather than reporting it...but I am not telling you something you don't already know, so... |
You articulated that very well. I think most of us felt the way depicted in your post. My intention was to vote for Rand Paul in the Florid Primary, and I would have done so had he not dropped out before I had the chance. But the reaction of the left and RINO crowd began to make me see why we needed someone like Trump for a season. Nobody else could have withstood this kind of assault. He simply will not capitulate. Ted Cruz would have caved long ago. He could not even handle Beto. Great guy, but not up to the fight.
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4/23/19 5:05 am
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Aaron Scott |
| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | So far, my "WWAD" bracelet has served my very well. I look at it and whatever Aaron would do, I just do the opposite. |
Well, I'll be going to heaven.... (SMILE)
Dave, here's the deal: I detest the Republicans by and large. I'm not crazy about Trump EXCEPT for the fact that he actually has the audacity to fight and get his hands dirty trying to do what he said he'd do.
The justices he has nominated have proven that much. The rest of the Republicans, despite all their claims to get elected, never do much about our key issues. They simply spend their time trying to make the Democrats look back. But Trump has forced them to either actually do something...or look stupid.
The point I was raising about voting Democrat is that if you do vote Democrat, it might just be that they win...and they you must accept any "rolling back" of any gains against abortion or the such, any strengthening that Trump has done for the country (I'm thinking the North Korea effort is, all by itself, the most audacious think a sitting president has done in YEARS--and, I for one, even despite NK's still playing games, feel that the chances of war with them are greatly diminished), etc.
Further, if you vote for anyone but Trump (assuming he runs in 2020), then you wind up taking away a possible vote for him, which leads us to pretty much the same thing as shown above. You can vote for the "Christian Constitutionalists" (I made that up) because they better match your views, but there is NO WAY they are going to win. It might be nice if they did (no really, since some 3rd parties are unwilling to make ANY compromise, and so wind up achieving nothing), but they aren't going to win.
But by giving them a vote that might have been cast for the tasteless Trump, you likely ensure the win of the Democrats.
We all agree that Trump leaves a LOT to be desired. Most of us cringe every time he troubles creation again and again with another tweet. But despite that, I still contend that he is not only doing far better than ANY current Democrat would do, but that it is likely the first time in years when the Democrats have had such trouble trying to control the opposition. They detest him, but they cannot control him and get him to "work with them" to do things THEIR way.
I'm all for a president who guts the Democrats and slaps the foolish Republicans into line. |
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4/23/19 2:22 pm
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Dave Dorsey |
| Believing that you must support the lesser of two evils or you are supporting the greater of two evils is how we got into this mess to begin with. I absolutely will not do that anymore. |
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4/23/19 3:20 pm
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Nature Boy Florida |
| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | Believing that you must support the lesser of two evils or you are supporting the greater of two evils is how we got into this mess to begin with. I absolutely will not do that anymore. |
. So says the man who says he is considering voting for the Dems. Hoo boy.
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4/23/19 4:47 pm
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diakoneo |
Ok, so after reading the article, it is my understanding that the whole reason for the article was a paragraph from the Mueller report. The Report that began because of a fake dossier. That document which Democrats and never Trumpers perpetrated.
There seems to be some conspiratorial insinuation in that paragraph. That many high level intelligent seemingly trustworthy men would continue to work with and for the president of the United States who is a crazed lunatic that can't make a rational decision. That is what it smells like to me. If that is the case we have much more than one problem. The author is saying "the Emperor has no clothes and he (and the rest of the enlightened ones)must tell everyone." Ring the bell...he must |
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4/24/19 8:30 am
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Aaron Scott |
| Dave Dorsey wrote: | | Believing that you must support the lesser of two evils or you are supporting the greater of two evils is how we got into this mess to begin with. I absolutely will not do that anymore. |
If you truly think that the Democrats are the LESSER of the two evils, then there is no reasoning with you. Vote away.
And, if you can tell me which party has NOTHING wrong with it, perhaps I can vote for them too...and, in effect, vote for the Democrats.
There are NO GOOD CHOICES. We all know this. We may have to hold our nose to vote for Trump, but to NOT vote for him is to hand the presidency to a group that will CERTAINLY do the wrong things. If Trump wins, he MAY do the wrong things, but there's a pretty good chance, in terms of policy, that he will do the things we like.
If it's his attitude you hate, fine. That's fair. But for which of his policies can you not support: Moving the embassy to Jerusalem? Having an actual dialogue with North Korea and doing more in his first two years of office (in terms of North Korea) than ANY of his predecessors of the last 40 years? Or is it his nominees to the Supreme Court?
For which of these do you so dislike him that you'd rather give your vote--directly or indirectly--to the Democrats?
IF a third party had an actual chance of winning, I'd likely vote for them, too. But they just don't. All that happens is that we get to feel smug about how WE didn't vote for a bad person (but that's only because you likely don't really know much about the person you're voting for), and how only foolish Christians vote for Trump.
If that's how you need to feel, OK, then. I guess.
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