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I saw this on a Facebook forum. The poster said it was a Church of God Evangel report of an interpretation of tongue at a GA. I don't know the year.
"I have appointed Brother A. J. Tomlinson General Overseer of my people. Obey him in everything according to the Word. Heb. 18:7. Hold my church up and I will hold you up. But I warn you if you do not walk in the light of my church you will walk in the darkness of Babylon. There is one fold and one shepherd. Other sheep I have which are not of this fold. them also I must bring. My sheep will hear my voice and a stranger they will not follow. Be bold. be strong. be separate. Ye cannot fellowship tobacco and snuff, fornication and adultery and live in my fold. Be ye clean and I will be with you. I will never leave nor forsake you. Take heed unto My words. delight thyself also in Me and I will give thee the desires of thing heart.""
I'm not sure what it means to fellowship tobacco and snuff. But does doing so prevent one from living in the Lord's fold?
I also tend to view the verse about other sheep not in the fold to refer to the Gentiles.
I got this from a photo, and it looks pretty clear to me that the text said Heb. 18 rather than 13. Maybe it's a typo.
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Does it say who gave the interpretation?
If it is in the Evangel it's before 1923. I would like to know the who, why and when of it.
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The one who posted said it was given by Dovie Williams.
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I guess Dovie (not sure who that is) felt God was saying that AJT was getting in the way of those who wanted to bring "tobacco and snuff, fornication and adultery" in to the Church of God. Whole lot of issues in that one interpretations; light and darkness - leadership - authority - lifestyle - holiness - church - one fold. I would love to know the year and location.
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Of course , Those that use tobacco and snuff are reprobates and should not be affiliated with and should be put in the same category as the adulterer.
I would almost bet that walking backward on the Sabbath is also prohibited in this church.  |
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| c6thplayer1 wrote: | Of course , Those that use tobacco and snuff are reprobates and should not be affiliated with and should be put in the same category as the adulterer.
I would almost bet that walking backward on the Sabbath is also prohibited in this church. |
You can walk backwards any day of the week, but show some respect for other and swallow instead of spiting when you chew. Don't burn your tobacco or exhale your smoke any where near me, my family, my friends, my dog, my car, my property, or where I have to walk, shop, sit, stand, work, eat or sleep. Other than that you're free to chew and smoke yourself (and those you say you love) to death.
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| Mat wrote: | | c6thplayer1 wrote: | Of course , Those that use tobacco and snuff are reprobates and should not be affiliated with and should be put in the same category as the adulterer.
I would almost bet that walking backward on the Sabbath is also prohibited in this church. |
You can walk backwards any day of the week, but show some respect for other and swallow instead of spiting when you chew. Don't burn your tobacco or exhale your smoke any where near me, my family, my friends, my dog, my car, my property, or where I have to walk, shop, sit, stand, work, eat or sleep. Other than that you're free to chew and smoke yourself (and those you say you love) to death.
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We're not talking about invading your space but rather those who condem others for their habits |
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| c6th, is your avatar working on a chaw of tobacco or is that Bubble Yum? |
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I can almost hear a tearful testimony of fighting God's call because one didn't want to give up his Black Jack chewing gum until finally he could resist the call no longer and got the victory over his habit.  |
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It could be a carnal (?) opinion, but I have been in or around the COG all my life. I have heard some very personal 'sarcasm' or 'instructions' that were called 'interpretations'. Directed at another individual.
Even one calling a backslider to the alter that had already left the service with his wife 15-20 minutes before the person gave a message in tongues and then 'interpreted' it.
I used to wonder how the Lord looked at these things. 
Of course I could have been very wrong myself. 
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| bonnie knox wrote: | | c6th, is your avatar working on a chaw of tobacco or is that Bubble Yum? |
Ha... I didn't even notice the chew man  |
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| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | bonnie knox wrote: | | c6th, is your avatar working on a chaw of tobacco or is that Bubble Yum? |
Ha... I didn't even notice the chew man |
See how them cartoons are corrupting our morals!😱
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| Link wrote: | I saw this on a Facebook forum. The poster said it was a Church of God Evangel report of an interpretation of tongue at a GA. I don't know the year.
"I have appointed Brother A. J. Tomlinson General Overseer of my people. Obey him in everything according to the Word. Heb. 18:7. Hold my church up and I will hold you up. But I warn you if you do not walk in the light of my church you will walk in the darkness of Babylon. There is one fold and one shepherd. Other sheep I have which are not of this fold. them also I must bring. My sheep will hear my voice and a stranger they will not follow. Be bold. be strong. be separate. Ye cannot fellowship tobacco and snuff, fornication and adultery and live in my fold. Be ye clean and I will be with you. I will never leave nor forsake you. Take heed unto My words. delight thyself also in Me and I will give thee the desires of thing heart." |
How many of you believe the Holy Spirit inspired/gave this interpretation? Was it from God? |
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| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | Link wrote: | I saw this on a Facebook forum. The poster said it was a Church of God Evangel report of an interpretation of tongue at a GA. I don't know the year.
"I have appointed Brother A. J. Tomlinson General Overseer of my people. Obey him in everything according to the Word. Heb. 18:7. Hold my church up and I will hold you up. But I warn you if you do not walk in the light of my church you will walk in the darkness of Babylon. There is one fold and one shepherd. Other sheep I have which are not of this fold. them also I must bring. My sheep will hear my voice and a stranger they will not follow. Be bold. be strong. be separate. Ye cannot fellowship tobacco and snuff, fornication and adultery and live in my fold. Be ye clean and I will be with you. I will never leave nor forsake you. Take heed unto My words. delight thyself also in Me and I will give thee the desires of thing heart." |
How many of you believe the Holy Spirit inspired/gave this interpretation? Was it from God? |
the holy spirit may have inspired parts of it but I dont think "Ye cannot fellowship tobacco and snuff" was part of it. |
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| c6thplayer1 wrote: | | Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | Link wrote: | I saw this on a Facebook forum. The poster said it was a Church of God Evangel report of an interpretation of tongue at a GA. I don't know the year.
"I have appointed Brother A. J. Tomlinson General Overseer of my people. Obey him in everything according to the Word. Heb. 18:7. Hold my church up and I will hold you up. But I warn you if you do not walk in the light of my church you will walk in the darkness of Babylon. There is one fold and one shepherd. Other sheep I have which are not of this fold. them also I must bring. My sheep will hear my voice and a stranger they will not follow. Be bold. be strong. be separate. Ye cannot fellowship tobacco and snuff, fornication and adultery and live in my fold. Be ye clean and I will be with you. I will never leave nor forsake you. Take heed unto My words. delight thyself also in Me and I will give thee the desires of thing heart." |
How many of you believe the Holy Spirit inspired/gave this interpretation? Was it from God? |
the holy spirit may have inspired parts of it but I dont think "Ye cannot fellowship tobacco and snuff" was part of it. |
I'm not one who thinks interpretations should be written down for future review. I have seen churches that in practice add to the Bible by the complying of past interpretations. Time and circumstance is key to understanding, where as the Bible transcends all limitations.
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| Mat wrote: |
I'm not one who thinks interpretations should be written down for future review. I have seen churches that in practice add to the Bible by the complying of past interpretations. Time and circumstance is key to understanding, where as the Bible transcends all limitations.
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I can't see any Biblical reason why it would be forbidden to write down prophecies or interpretations to review them later. There is plenty of Biblical precedent for writing down prophecies, and there are references to prophetic writings written down that aren't included in scripture.
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I never thought of it, but I think it should be a practice to record 'SPECIFIC' prophecies and interpretations. God knows what HE is saying, if it is from God it will come to pass. Unless there is a caveat HE includes at the time.
That of course is my opinion, just recorded on the spur of this moment.
If I give it some thought, I might change my mind. But I remember one in our Church that the Evangelist gave a message from God, that someone was "HEALED, you can take it to the BANK." The person died within a few weeks of the disease. I think a person should own their words.
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| Was the interpretation about "snuff" and the Holy Spirit calling AJT "Brother AJT" and "obey him [i.e., obey AJT] in everything" from God? |
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| Old Time Country Preacher wrote: | | Was the interpretation about "snuff" and the Holy Spirit calling AJT "Brother AJT" and "obey him [i.e., obey AJT] in everything" from God? |
I would think not. |
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