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 I don't want to grow-up... |
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| I'm a C-O-G kid...there's a million churches in the COG, that I can attend. |
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| Re: I don't want to grow-up... |
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| prefontaine wrote: | | I'm a C-O-G kid...there's a million churches in the COG, that I can attend. |
Take your PerryStones vitamins.
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| Very good RR... |
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| I don't suppose we have Lamar Vest Underoos. |
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| prefontaine wrote: | | I don't suppose we have Lamar Vest Underoos. |
I heard you wear Bryan Cutshorts 
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| roughridercog wrote: | | KevinLloyd wrote: | | gadawg wrote: | Very well said Grandpa!
Kevin: Do you still hold a ministerial license with the CofG? If your new church is not affiliated with the CofG, why do you still hold your license if the CoG is so bad? |
because i got my credentials & want to keep them. i really love some of the people. |
Kevin, I'm not being mean. You know that.
But I have to ask a question. How long will you be allowed to pastor an independent church and still keep your credentials with the Church of God? Is there a time limit? Have you discussed this with your AB? |
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Kevin, was my question lost in the mad shuffle? I'm just curious. Is there a timetable?
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| I've asked the same thing Rough, no response. |
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4/3/07 2:16 pm
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| wvwatchman wrote: | | Telecaster wrote: | Eight pages, and I'm still trying to figure out who the best and the brightest are . . . . . . . . So far all I'm getting is it's all those who want to rock tradition and go beyond authority. So if this is the case, I suppose being young myself, I need to develop the spirit of rebellion and then maybe my name will be included in the brightest and best . . . .  |
TC, you also would have to stop quoting scripture and become more relevant.  |
Thanks wv! I knew i was missing something!!!! |
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4/3/07 2:17 pm
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| KevinLloyd wrote: | | gadawg wrote: | Very well said Grandpa!
Kevin: Do you still hold a ministerial license with the CofG? If your new church is not affiliated with the CofG, why do you still hold your license if the CoG is so bad? |
because i got my credentials & want to keep them. i really love some of the people. |
Isn't that hypocritical. I want to keep my credentials because it's where I go them and I love some of the people . . . . yet you're leaving because we've failed to recognize and understand you therefore you're the brightest that we're losing . . . . . . enough said. |
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4/3/07 2:19 pm
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| Telecaster wrote: | | KevinLloyd wrote: | | gadawg wrote: | Very well said Grandpa!
Kevin: Do you still hold a ministerial license with the CofG? If your new church is not affiliated with the CofG, why do you still hold your license if the CoG is so bad? |
because i got my credentials & want to keep them. i really love some of the people. |
Isn't that hypocritical. I want to keep my credentials because it's where I go them and I love some of the people . . . . yet you're leaving because we've failed to recognize and understand you therefore you're the brightest that we're losing . . . . . . enough said. |
dude...don't get your panties in a bunch. i'm not leaving because no one understands me, that's not a reason at all. in fact, i don't think i ever said that. i'm leaving mainly because of the money issue.
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4/3/07 3:26 pm
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| Don't wear panties to my notion . . . . so about Rough's ? |
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4/3/07 3:29 pm
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Kevin,
It's a legitimate question. Coming from someone that loves and affirms you, it would be no big deal. But, Telecaster is bent on ripping you a new backside and seemingly could care less about you.
You have an awesome calling on your life, tenacity, and heart to get it done in a big way. Get on with your stuff, bro. Ignore the yappers like Telecaster. This kind of guy is going to pick at you no matter what and demonstrate how that he is holier and better than you. The truth is that you are a known entity with a record to chip at, flaws to see, and a name to write under. He's anonymous and most likely afraid for other people to critique him the way he has critiqued you.
Now, stay on the board. Share about your plant (can't wait to hear about your first preview service). And, challenge us to reprioritize our funding of mission to match up with our stated goals of mission. Hopefully, we'll do that and not lose more guys like you.
I wish that your church was going to be COG. But, you are surrounded by some great guys in ARC. The next time you are at one of those gatherings, tell Robert Pooley I said hello...super guy for you to get to hang with. |
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4/3/07 3:52 pm
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| Wow Travis |
Telecaster |
You couldn't be more judgmental and erroneous all at the same time. I'm a yapper for wanting to know like Rough if Kevin is going to do the right thing and turn his license in? That makes me a yapper. All I want to do is beat his backside. Come on man. Kevin talks about panties. You talk about backsides. Maybe being proud of tradition ain't so bad after all . . . . . .
Just funny how a guy claims a love for COG people yet wants to bash those of us who aren't emerging with him. We're just the traditionalist that are holding the denomination back and will cause it to die in 25 years. Oh and after all this, he's going to do his own thing . . .. AND keep his COG license because he loves the people. Why not keep a Campmeeting flyer instead and do the right thing.
Forgive me for asking a question another fellow poster has asked and one that is continually dodged as well as pointing out the right thing to do. If you can't accept it Travis, sorry for ya buddy. Maybe you and Kevin can hook up and talk about . . . well you know. |
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4/3/07 4:03 pm
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| I think the difference is... |
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| Telecaster, you never have anything good to say. Maybe never is a little too strong a word, but close-especially when it comes to the non-traditional ministers on here. Nobody has bashed traditional churches, we've only said anything bad about worshiping the tradition, and an unwillingness to change even if God does say so. You compare your post to RR, but he has a different track record than you do for holding his convictions, but not thrashing other people...not to mention he has a better sense of humor. |
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4/3/07 4:07 pm
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Travis Johnson |
Actually, I said:
| Quote: | | It's a legitimate question. |
I also basically said that you don't give a flip about Kevin. Kevin will do great with or without a license in the COG. So, if you want to kick him as he's leaving, go ahead. I just want it to be on the record that I won't sit still when a bully is kicking sand on a brother even if it means I'll take a lump or two in the process. |
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4/3/07 4:15 pm
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Telecaster |
| prefontaine wrote: | | Telecaster, you never have anything good to say. Maybe never is a little too strong a word, but close-especially when it comes to the non-traditional ministers on here. Nobody has bashed traditional churches, we've only said anything bad about worshiping the tradition, and an unwillingness to change even if God does say so. You compare your post to RR, but he has a different track record than you do for holding his convictions, but not thrashing other people...not to mention he has a better sense of humor. |
I'd like to show you me where. I've not bashed them. I've just called some of their practices wrong and gave my opinion. I've responded to arrogant ideas and arrogant attitudes in turn. I am wrong for that when I've done that. But I've made plenty of posts outside of this train of thought, as well as, posts telling Kevin in particular that I agree with him on things.
While you say I'm that way, I think you'd find there are plenty who would disagree. Sorry if you've misunderstood me, but I think my track record is just as similar to many you defend. |
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4/3/07 4:18 pm
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4/3/07 4:22 pm
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| Can I ask... |
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| What does it matter to us if he does keep his license? It won't affect my ministry, I don't guess it will effect yours. So, do you just want him to give it up because you don't feel like he's worthy of it? Why should he have to give it up. My view is that maybe one day he will reconsider his affiliation, and come back to the COG. |
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4/3/07 4:24 pm
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quote="Travis Johnson"]Actually, I said:
| Quote: | | It's a legitimate question. |
I also basically said that you don't give a flip about Kevin. Kevin will do great with or without a license in the COG. So, if you want to kick him as he's leaving, go ahead. I just want it to be on the record that I won't sit still when a bully is kicking sand on a brother even if it means I'll take a lump or two in the process.[/quote]
Well, I'm sorry you feel like you've got be Kevin's savior. I don't know how me asking the question of what he's going to do with his license is so bullying. If I was wrong about saying it is hypocritical, then i'm sorry you feel that way. That's just my opinion. I'm sure he'll do good without the COG, I prefer he stay because he does have some ideas, but yet I'm not going to stand by and let him or anyone else kick the COG even if it means I have to take a lump or two in the process. So we can agree on that. |
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4/3/07 4:43 pm
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| Do we have precedence of COG ministers ministering outside the COG yet still able to retain their credentials? |
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4/3/07 4:44 pm
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Telecaster |
| prefontaine wrote: | | What does it matter to us if he does keep his license? It won't affect my ministry, I don't guess it will effect yours. So, do you just want him to give it up because you don't feel like he's worthy of it? Why should he have to give it up. My view is that maybe one day he will reconsider his affiliation, and come back to the COG. |
Because it's the right thing to do. It's about integrity to the COG. If he does reconsider great. I hope he does too. But the bylaws let us know that if we use our license for anything besides ministry inside the COG, then our license is subject to be revoked. |
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