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Acts-dicted Posts: 9027 **11/21/12 8:32 am**

Under the new covenant, God's laws are written on our hearts and minds, not stones.

We are clearly called to throw out that which was given on Mt. Sinai, the law, the 10 commandments, the old priesthood, the old sacrifices--the entire old system.

2 Cor. 3:5 Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider anything as coming from ourselves, but our adequacy is from God, 6 who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit ; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 7 But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory ? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory.

We are made "adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter". God does not make us adequate (equip us) to as servants of the letter. We are under the "ministry of the Spirit" and the "ministry of righteousness", not the "ministry of death" and the "ministry of condemnation". Jesus did not come to condemn the world, but to save it! John 3:17.

Heb. 12:18 For you have not come to a mountain that can be touched and to a blazing fire, and to darkness and gloom and whirlwind, 19 and to the blast of a trumpet and the sound of words which sound was such that those who heard begged that no further word be spoken to them. 20 For they could not bear the command, "IF EVEN A BEAST TOUCHES THE MOUNTAIN, IT WILL BE STONED." 21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, "I AM FULL OF FEAR and trembling." 22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the Judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than the blood of Abel.

We cannot worship on 2 mountains. Sinai was scary and made even Moses "full of fear and trembling". But this is not the mountain we have come to! Our mountain is where we find "the spirits of the righteous made perfect", those who are "enrolled in heaven"! We have come to Mt. Zion!

We have a new covenant! Mixing the covenants is like adding a little leaven, it spoils the whole lump!

Gal. 4:21 Tell me, you who want to be under law, do you not listen to the law ? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the bondwoman and one by the free woman. 23 But the son by the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and the son by the free woman through the promise. 24 This is allegorically speaking, for these women are two covenants : one proceeding from Mount Sinai bearing children who are to be slaves ; she is Hagar. 25 Now this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem above is free ; she is our mother. 27 For it is written, "REJOICE, BARREN WOMAN WHO DOES NOT BEAR ; BREAK FORTH AND SHOUT, YOU WHO ARE NOT IN LABOR ; FOR MORE NUMEROUS ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE DESOLATE THAN OF THE ONE WHO HAS A HUSBAND." 28 And you brethren, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29 But as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so it is now also. 30 But what does the Scripture say ? "CAST OUT THE BONDWOMAN AND HER SON, FOR THE SON OF THE BONDWOMAN SHALL NOT BE AN HEIR WITH THE SON OF THE FREE WOMAN." 31 So then, brethren, we are not children of a bondwoman, but of the free woman.Gal. 5:1 It was for freedom that Christ set us free ; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery. 2 Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you. 3 And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law. 4 You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law ; you have fallen from grace. 5 For we through the Spirit, by faith, are waiting for the hope of righteousness. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love. 7 You were running well ; who hindered you from obeying the truth ? 8 This persuasion did not come from Him who calls you. 9 A little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough.

Ishmael persecuted Isaac (Gal. 4:29), "so it is now". No one resists the new covenant like the children of the old covenant. They cannot live in the house together!

Those who want to mix covenants want the church to have 2 mothers. We cannot be children of 2 mothers. We are children of Sarah, not Hagar!

The entire "yoke of bondage" has to be cast out!
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[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **11/21/12 8:43 am**

Again, Scripture specifically says Christ's death was a ransom/redemption price. It nowhere says it was a payment of debt. That is a theological fiction often asserted but never demonstrated from Scripture itself.

[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **11/21/12 8:45 am**

If I owe someone $1000 and a mutual friend decides to pay my debt for me, to ask for or receive forgiveness of that same debt would be absurd. Payment of debt and forgiveness of debt are mutually exclusive.

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Jesus did not teach that forgiveness of debt was the same thing as payment of debt:

Matt. 18:21 Then Peter came and said to Him, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” 22 Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.
23 “For this reason the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his slaves. 24 “When he had begun to settle them, one who owed him ten thousand talents was brought to him. 25 “But since he did not have the means to repay, his lord commanded him to be sold, along with his wife and children and all that he had, and repayment to be made. 26 “So the slave fell to the ground and prostrated himself before him, saying, ‘Have patience with me and I will repay you everything.’ 27 “And the lord of that slave felt compassion and released him and forgave him the debt. 28 “But that slave went out and found one of his fellow slaves who owed him a hundred denarii; and he seized him and began to choke him, saying, ‘Pay back what you owe.’ 29 “So his fellow slave fell to the ground and began to plead with him, saying, ‘Have patience with me and I will repay you.’ 30 “But he was unwilling and went and threw him in prison until he should pay back what was owed. 31 “So when his fellow slaves saw what had happened, they were deeply grieved and came and reported to their lord all that had happened. 32 “Then summoning him, his lord said to him, ‘You wicked slave, I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. 33 ‘Should you not also have had mercy on your fellow slave, in the same way that I had mercy on you?’ 34 “And his lord, moved with anger, handed him over to the torturers until he should repay all that was owed him. 35 “My heavenly Father will also do the same to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from your heart.” NASB

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[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **11/21/12 8:58 am**

I would think we would all desire to hold to a scriptural view of the atonement only.

Golf Cart Mafia Consigliere Posts: 3063 **11/21/12 9:07 am**

If the forgiveness and absolution of sin is the core message of the gospel, as you suppose, don't you find it odd that in all these LENGHTY portions of Paul you post- forgiveness of sin is never mentioned. In fact, it is a rarely mentioned in the Pauline corpus.

Oh yeah, about Hebrews 6...?

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Friendly Face Posts: 266 **11/21/12 10:15 am**

What about the scripture

"The wages of sin is death"

If our sin has been totally erased past, present, and future, then can we live our lives however we want and not have to worry about the penalty of death?
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[Insert Acts Pun Here] Posts: 12817 **11/21/12 12:34 pm**

There is no denying on my part that the Cross of Christ was a once-for-all act, the only sufficient sacrifice for sin, by which believers are forgiven, cleansed, and set free from sin.

Whether you realize it or not, Brad, you are in fact repeating a theory of the atonement when you say things like:

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