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Post Re: Dave... Dave Dorsey
Aaron Scott wrote:
IF a third party had an actual chance of winning, I'd likely vote for them, too. But they just don't.

The problem with this approach is that it ensures there will only ever be two choices. If you want a third party to have a chance of winning some day, stop letting the two parties tell you every election is Flight 93 and you have to vote for one of them or the country is going to come to ruin.
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Aaron Scott wrote:

All that happens is that we get to feel smug about how WE didn't vote for a bad person



And there you have it!
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Dave Dorsey wrote:
Aaron Scott wrote:
IF a third party had an actual chance of winning, I'd likely vote for them, too. But they just don't.

The problem with this approach is that it ensures there will only ever be two choices. If you want a third party to have a chance of winning some day, stop letting the two parties tell you every election is Flight 93 and you have to vote for one of them or the country is going to come to ruin.




If everyone would just "do the right thing," we wouldn't have crime, abortion, hatred, etc. But the fact of the matter is that only the smallest percentage of Trump supporters will likely jump ship. And so we lose those FOR votes due to AGAINST votes.

As much as I love to think of utopias, the fact of real-world is that we must do what we can to keep power out of liberal hands. Otherwise, we go smugly marching on after wasting our votes...while American is destroyed from within.
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Post Proves my point.... spartanfan
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Post Re: Proves my point.... Dave Dorsey
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This progressive spiritual degeneration gets a subtle start with the apostates changing their stand on important issues like total abstinence and before you know it they are voting for people who are advocating the ultimate immorality. We should not be surprised that compromising convictions without repentance results in such spiritual travesty. Is this not the plight of all who resist the old ways and refuse the spiritual rest that lies in following the old paths? Why would anybody be surprised in this final descent into immoral behavior? First near beer, then light beer, then real beer and then they are waving the LGTBQ banner!

Like all disgusting, proud hypocrites you don't realize that the same statement could be applied to you and your support of Trump. We're all trying to figure out how to best live out a biblical worldview in this fallen, sinful world. None of these candidates are anything close to righteous. Get a life, dude. You are a hypocrite and a liar.
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Post Then comes the inability to recognize satire .... spartanfan
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Post Dave Dorsey
If you think you went over the line, just apologize for it. Don't be a little baby who cries "satire" when someone calls you out.

I stand by everything I said about you.
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Post Too funny.... spartanfan
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Post Dave Dorsey
I'm not convinced you're a troll. I think you're every bit the disgusting, mean-spirited hypocrite you have repeatedly revealed yourself to be on this forum. But I appreciate you outing yourself as a troll nevertheless, so everyone knows they can safely ignore you from here on out since you have (by your own admission) no intention to discuss anything in any kind of good faith (which anyone who has ever discussed anything with you surely already knew).

So now that everyone knows you can be safely ignored, I'll be the first. Seeya sparty!
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Post See ya.... spartanfan
Laughing great fun. And I'm still cracking up about you "living out the biblical worldview by supporting the abortionist platform and the sodomites." I can't help you son.... I just can't help you Laughing Golf Cart Mafia Underboss
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Post Dave Dorsey
Now, a quick post to address the issue -- under the assumption that there are several non-trolls in this thread who might be wondering the same thing in good faith (bad-faith trolls need not reply, as your replies will be ignored).

I think the abortion issue is maybe the single thing that would prevent me from ever voting for a Dem, especially this cycle where not one candidate can bring him/herself to oppose late term or even post-birth abortion as anything other than a "conversation between a woman and her doctor". There have been some good pro-life test cases percolating up through the courts over the last couple of years, and this is probably the one area (judges) where Trump has been nearly perfect.

There's no evidence yet that anything will happen to change the fact that we murder over 900 babies per day, nor has the GOP ever done anything substantive about this issue. It has always been something that is "just a few years away" so "keep voting GOP!" That said... it's hard to do otherwise about an issue so significant and important.

I am concerned that the chaos of this administration could lead to tens of millions of deaths in a global conflict, and I strongly suspect America's adversaries are looking to begin that conflict as quickly as they can. I think these deaths would be the consequence of chaotic leadership and empty posts, and therefore would not occur (to that extent) under a semi-competent Democratic administration. I think those deaths could potentially exceed the 900 babies who are killed each day. That would be the basis for supporting a Democrat -- the risk of those deaths in global conflict, and the unlikelihood of that 900 per day number actually decreasing under a GOP administration.

All that said... I don't think I could actually do it. Third party yes, Dem no.
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Post Bravo! spartanfan
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Post Re: Proves my point.... spartanfan
Dave Dorsey wrote:
spartanfan wrote:
This progressive spiritual degeneration gets a subtle start with the apostates changing their stand on important issues like total abstinence and before you know it they are voting for people who are advocating the ultimate immorality. We should not be surprised that compromising convictions without repentance results in such spiritual travesty. Is this not the plight of all who resist the old ways and refuse the spiritual rest that lies in following the old paths? Why would anybody be surprised in this final descent into immoral behavior? First near beer, then light beer, then real beer and then they are waving the LGTBQ banner!

Like all disgusting, proud hypocrites you don't realize that the same statement could be applied to you and your support of Trump. We're all trying to figure out how to best live out a biblical worldview in this fallen, sinful world. None of these candidates are anything close to righteous. Get a life, dude. You are a hypocrite and a liar.


You need to ban yourself for directly calling me a hypocrite and a liar. Fair is fair - I've been banned for less. But I brought that kind of behavior out of you. Peace bro! Never again. I am sorry.
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Dave Dorsey wrote:
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There's no evidence yet that anything will happen to change the fact that we murder over 900 babies per day, nor has the GOP ever done anything substantive about this issue. It has always been something that is "just a few years away" so "keep voting GOP!" That said... it's hard to do otherwise about an issue so significant and important.....



All that said... I don't think I could actually do it. Third party yes, Dem no.


I have been reading along. There is frustration on both sides. Most of us know 'most' politicians will say what is necessary for re-election in THEIR districts/states for either party. Roe v wade will most likely NEVER go away. YES i care, but I know facts have proven when the chance was real it was ignored. Trump's group ain't gonna do it. Reagan's admin did not do it. It ain't gonna happen. The best we are going to do is 'damage control.' as they say in the military.
I am not in a dream world. WE WILL NEVER legislate morality. We are too far down the road for that. But we can elect responsible, people...... MAYBE..????
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Post I was banned for less as well Cojak brotherjames
I called out Dave for his less than Pentecostal views on a Pentecostal church forum board and got banned for it. And he calls people liars and hypocrites but he's a moderator.

I think there's a sticky about kindness needed on thus board somewhere. Huh?
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Post Dave Dorsey
The accusation that I am "waving the LGBTQ banner" is a lie. The person who made that accusation (apparently, by their own admission, with the intention of "riling me up") is therefore a liar. I'm not sure how pointing that out is unkind.

bj, that's not why you were banned, as has been explained to you before, but it seems clear you want to believe it was so you do you. Your account was suspended following your announcement that you were leaving the board because of how bad you believed it had become. I especially don't understand why this would be controversial for you.
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Post Dave Dorsey
In this case especially, by his own admission (which has for some reason been removed by him) he was posting in intentional bad faith with the sole purpose of riling me up. Then when he succeeds, you guys start pointing to the rules and saying I need to be banned? That is so, so weak. [Insert Acts Pun Here]
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Post Come on.... can't you see the difference here? spartanfan
Spartanfan wrote: "This progressive spiritual degeneration gets a subtle start with the apostates changing their stand on important issues like total abstinence and before you know it they are voting for people who are advocating the ultimate immorality. We should not be surprised that compromising convictions without repentance results in such spiritual travesty. Is this not the plight of all who resist the old ways and refuse the spiritual rest that lies in following the old paths? Why would anybody be surprised in this final descent into immoral behavior? First near beer, then light beer, then real beer and then they are waving the LGTBQ banner!"

Dave Dorsey wrote: "Like all disgusting, proud hypocrites you don't realize that the same statement could be applied to you and your support of Trump. We're all trying to figure out how to best live out a biblical worldview in this fallen, sinful world. None of these candidates are anything close to righteous. Get a life, dude. You are a hypocrite and a liar."

Direct name calling - in spite of Matthew 5:22 (KJV), "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire." Read the remarks in question again Dave and then tell me if you continue to justify your conduct? Why don't you just say you are sorry and ban yourself for 30 days? I'll be gracious and accept Laughing Laughing
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Post Dave Dorsey
Using the Scripture as a tool for your trolling is low even for you.

I apologize for taking the bait you served up in extreme bad faith. You can rest assured it will not happen again.
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